Talk:Glosas Emilianenses

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Removing additions without justification

@Thoughtfortheday: you removed the following addition without justification:

08:46, 21 August 2022‎ Thoughtfortheday talk contribs‎ 10,346 bytes −233‎ Undid revision 1105654777 by Temax (talk) this insertion doesn't really belong in the lede

The text said: "IX century documents in an evolved Latin from the province of Burgos. As the school director Gonzalo Santoja explains: «it can be concluded that the language of the glosas is a Latin language assaulted by a living language, from the street and that sneaks into these writings»."

The above addition adds the statement of a professor and school director directly involved in the matter. Saying that "it does not belong to the lede" without explaining why does not qualify as a justification. Unless you can justify why this addition to the article and this reference *cannot* be added there, I will add it back, as it is important data to clarify the statement from Real Academia Española, as it talks about "the live language from the street" that changed the traditional rigid Latin language. I will give you some time to answer. Thank you. Temax (talk)

@Temax: Thanks for explaining your point of view. I apologise for any offence I may have given and no, I certainly don't want to pontificate on what can or cannot be added to an article. On a specific point, Gonzalo Santoja, whose authority I am not disputing (I understand he is involved with the Instituto Castellano y Leonés de la Lengua), appears not to have been referring to the San Millan glosses in the quotation in question, and I am not sure that was clear from your edit.

On a more general point, I think that the lede has grown longer than is recommended. Perhaps it would be better if information such as details about other interesting old documents could be moved to an appropriate section below the lede. You will see I moved some material about languages spoken in the locality of the monastery.

I look forward to reading your reply in due course.--Thoughtfortheday (talk) 18:15, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the absence of further discussion, I have removed the Santoja quote which is not about the glosses and doesn't really belong in the article let alone the lede.--Thoughtfortheday (talk) 09:52, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Correct category?

Please see Category talk:Earliest known manuscripts by language. Enaidmawr (talk) 01:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Date?

The article doesn't seem to mention what date the manuscripts come from. This is vitally important information for linguistic study, when was it written? The only information we are given is "about a thousand years ago", so what 1014 AD? Or is it "a thousand years" since they were noticed in the early twentieth century? A thousand years from when? At least please specify what century it was written in. --Hibernian (talk) 02:52, 24 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Hibernian:: Done. --Error (talk) 10:53, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Latin text?

From looking at the full page, I understand that the Latin text does not exactly correspond to the long gloss quoted here, but I cannot read that hand properly. Can somebody confirm the relation between the Latin and the Romance texts? --Error (talk) 10:00, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

redirect needed

In the popular press (e.g., The Economist, last issue of 2022), the material is referred to as Emilian glosses. I request a redirect from that English gloss to this Latin-named page. 2600:6C67:1C00:5F7E:385B:C3E1:A178:FCA2 (talk) 14:42, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Jotamar (talk) 23:55, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]