Talk:Giuseppe Di Stefano

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1955 Lucia

di Stefano made a recording of Lucia di Lammermoor with Maria Callas in 1955, live, with von Karajan conducting, and the orchestra and chorus of La Scala, also on EMI. Is there a reason this is excluded from the list? For example, since it's a live recording or since there's another Lucia listed? Otherwise, I'll add it. Rurp (talk) 14:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox/Declining to get involved in an edit war

To the creator of the infobox who just left the edit summary: Replaced infobox. Please quit trying to ruin the articles, Kleinzach. Every other opera singer's page has them.

1. Kindly remember WP:CIVILITY is a policy here. I have been working on this page (see edit summary).
2. Not all opera singers have info boxes - actually very few of them have. I know because I started a lot of them myself and have contributed (that means text, not little boxes) to many others.
3. The musical artists' infobox is for popular artists not opera singers.
4. The Opera Project has a policy against infoboxes as do other projects.
5. There is strong and growing opposition to using these ugly infoxes throughout WP.

I am not going to get involved in an edit war - so I am leaving it as it is. -- Kleinzach 04:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very tempted to remove the thing, mostly because I've never heard of a tenor's voice being referred to as his instrument. In fact, I'm going to. Moreschi ^Talk 15:46, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Um, excuse me, IP? Or your real account? The infobox says 1940s to 1990s, the article - and Grove - say 1940s to 1970s. They can't both be true, and we shouldn't have both fair use images. Moreschi ^Talk 09:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Canzone Napoletana? Half his career? He wasn't Neapolitan. Like all tenors he recorded some Neapolitan songs. I'd guess it accounted for about 2% of his career. Another example of where these foolish infoboxes lead us! Will someone who cares about Pippo remove it please! --Kleinzach 10:06, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Now that we have had a suitable cooling off period I have removed the infobox. I hope this will be respected. If anybody has any comments I hope they will make them here. Thank you. -- Kleinzach 01:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image(s)

I'd be interested to learn what the regular contributors to this article (but also others, if they happen to pass by) think about the image(s) in this article. Am I wrong in assuming that it is the ultimate goal to have no Di Stefano image?

When I looked at the article some time ago there were three, one of them on stage with Maria Callas (if I remember correctly). Now they are all gone (see also Image talk:Di Stefano.JPG). As I see it, there are only three ways of procuring a free image:

(1) travel to wherever he lives and take his picture (how is he, by the way?)—wouldn't really show him at the height of his career, would it?

(2) wait until an ageing opera buff and amateur photographer turns Wikipedian and presents us with a photo they took of Di Stefano after a performance back in, say, 1958

(3) ask Di Stefano to release an image of himself into the public domain.

Is there a fourth way? <K F> 21:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, let's see. In such a short article as this, there's no justification whatsoever for having three (or even two) fair use images. Wikipedia is a free encyclopedia, free as in free-content, not just free as in beer. So minimal fair use at all times. Wikipedia:Non-free content etc.

Secondly, all fair-use images used have to have fair use rationales, otherwise they get deleted. This is not optional. None of the images used here did. In addition, several were being used inappropriately across multiple articles, and others can't be used here at all (being CD covers/book covers). While there probably is a valid case for a fair use image in this article, its use has to be closely tied to the article context for any fair use rationale to be valid (as with the sound files at Concerto delle donne). Moreschi ^Talk 22:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My understanding is that images of CDs/DVDs etc can only be justified as fair dealing if a review of the release accompanies the images. As we don't normally review recordings - as a non-commercial encyclopedia - that makes using these images difficult. On the other hand if anyone contacts the copyright owner of an image and gets permission to use it here then there is no problem. In the case of Pippo there must be thousands of photos around so there shouldn't be too much trouble getting hold of some for this article - providing someone is willing to make the necessary effort. -- Kleinzach 22:59, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Minor edit?

Just edited this, submitted it as a minor edit, too. I hope that that wasn't bad judgment on my part. Here's the butter of it: under the section about his recordings with Callas, I edited "I Pagliacci" into the actual -correct- title "Pagliacci", "I Pagliacci" redirects to the article entitled "Pagliacci" which states that the former is "incorrectly rendered" (i.e. a common mistake). SShifter (talk) 01:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coma for 3 years?

Was he in a coma for three years? it says he was flown somewhere after the attack and then went into a comma in 2007 or something? This section is unclear in my opinion not knowning what alll the facts are. --70.109.223.188 (talk) 20:51, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No he wasn't, it was misleading so I fixed it. Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 12:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other Recordings

Notable omission is the Verdi Requiem under de Sabata 1954 (EMI) with Schwarzkopf, Dominguez and Siepi - a studio recording. (generally not admired for recorded quality and de Sabata's conducting); Also off stage and off air recordings: Massenet's Werther under Cellini 1949, with Simionato, a role in which he was especially admired in his youth; Verdi's Aida under Votto 1956 with Stella, Simionato, Guelfi (much to admire in his singing); Verdi's La Forza Del Destino under Votto 1957 with Gencer, Protti and Siepi (very good); Boito Mefistofele under Serafin (Excerpts). prob 1959. with Siepi and Tebaldi (Di Stefano at his best). There are also broadcasts from San Francisco of concerts which show his voice in its youthful freshness, including the high C in the Faust aria referred to in the article. Obviously my evaluative comments would be inappropriate for the main text, and maybe the off stage recordings are not central enough, and too limited in recorded sound. However, the 1955 recording of Traviata is in the list of recordings with Callas (the famous La Scala performance under Giulini) and is an off stage recording, of disappointing audio quality. Surely the de Sabata Requiem should be listed.--Cleanboot (talk) 19:20, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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