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To tag Butler as unreliable is, I suggest, to miss the point. Of course he is unreliable re Gildas -also confused; as were Gale and others. "The difficulties created by discrepancies of time and place are not peculiar to the case of Gildas -they arise also in connection with Arthur and Merlin." While he is not reliable for any accurate account of Gildas, he is more than adequate to show the views with which subsequent scholars disagreed. Statements by Snell, Chambers, and for that matter Baring-Gould become a bit obscure if it isn't shown just what it was they were rebutting. Manannan67 (talk) 06:10, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
