Talk:Gilbert fitz Roger fitz Reinfried

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Roger de Lancaster of Rydal,

Roger de Lancaster of Rydal, illegitimate son of Gilbert fitz Reinfrid, had sons, but his heir, the knight Sir John de Lancaster of Grisedale, left no heir [citation needed]. Roger and John used not only the Lancaster surname, but also the same coat of arms which Gilbert fitz Reinfrid's grandfather-in-law William de Lancaster I had used, despite the fact that Helewise de Lancaster was not Roger's mother.

Gilbert fitz Reinfrid name Roger.

Additionally, he was a presumed son, the dates surrounding him and events do not align to (his presumed father.) Pipera (talk) 05:25, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]