Talk:Get Like Me (David Banner song)
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Jim Jones?
[edit]Can someone please tell me where you can hear Jim Jones? Because I cannot hear him at all in this song and people continue to say he's featured. SE KinG (talk) 00:49, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Because it samples his song. And there are cases where a song has been sampled and the original artist is featured on it. Genevieve-Tamerlaine (talk) 04:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Move
[edit]WP:NC aside, for the moment, this is a published artistic work. Therefore, the title is a proper name. Proper names are always capitalized, save for words such as "a" (unless the first word of the title), "of," and "the" (unless the first word of the title).
As such, Get Like Me is the proper title. To be specific, Get Like Me (song) should be the proper title of this article. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 19:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- "Like" is a preposition. And why would we need the "(song)" part? ILikeMusicaLot (talk) 19:52, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- Per what I've already posted on your page, "Do not capitalize second and subsequent words unless the title is almost always capitalized in English (for example, proper names)." Thus it is correct to capitalize "Like" in this instance, as it is part of a song title, which is a proper name. The (song) notation is proper to differentiate between this song and any other work that might exist, such as a book or other item of the same title. To be more specific, (David Banner song) might even be more accurate. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 20:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- The "(song)" part is only for when there's another article with that name. ILikeMusicaLot (talk) 20:23, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- You missed the point. However, per Amazon.com's tracklisting for the album, the title does not include (Stuntin is a Habit). As such, the article needs to be moved back to Get Like Me (song). --InDeBiz1 (talk) 20:56, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- "Stuntin Is a Habit" appears in the iTunes title. And if it has to be moved back anywhere,it should be Get like Me. ILikeMusicaLot (talk) 20:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- So? iTunes is not always a reliable source. I will reach out to a representative of Universal Motown and get the official title. Per my previous comment on the subject, your proposed move would be incorrect. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 21:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- Fine,then we should move it to "Get like Me", and we don't need "(song)" since there's no other article called "Get like Me". ILikeMusicaLot (talk) 21:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, because you're still incorrect on the capitalization of the "L." However, I have asked an administrator to weigh in on this subject. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 21:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- The "Like" should be capitalized. The "is" should be lowercase. That's per our manual of style. As for the parentheses, if they are in the track listing somewhere, then we use them. ⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 14:36, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- But our manual of style says not to capitalize prepositions,conjuctions & articles. "Like" is a preposition. But "is" should be capitalized since it's a verb. ILikeMusicaLot (talk) 14:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- There is a separate manual of style for musical albums:
- WP:ALBUMCAPS
- In titles of songs or albums, and band names, in the English language, the project standard is to capitalize:
- 1. The first word and last word in the title.
- 2. All other words except for coordinating conjunctions (and, but, or, nor), prepositions (to, over, in, for), articles (an, a, the), and the word to in infinitives. Note that short verbs (Is, Are, Be, Do) and pronouns (Me, It, His) are capitalized.
- Therefore, even though like is a preposition, in it's usage in the title it is an adverb, and would be capitalized (note, it's not one of the listed ones that is typically lowercase)⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender
- There is a separate manual of style for musical albums:
- But our manual of style says not to capitalize prepositions,conjuctions & articles. "Like" is a preposition. But "is" should be capitalized since it's a verb. ILikeMusicaLot (talk) 14:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- The "Like" should be capitalized. The "is" should be lowercase. That's per our manual of style. As for the parentheses, if they are in the track listing somewhere, then we use them. ⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 14:36, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, because you're still incorrect on the capitalization of the "L." However, I have asked an administrator to weigh in on this subject. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 21:06, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- Fine,then we should move it to "Get like Me", and we don't need "(song)" since there's no other article called "Get like Me". ILikeMusicaLot (talk) 21:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- So? iTunes is not always a reliable source. I will reach out to a representative of Universal Motown and get the official title. Per my previous comment on the subject, your proposed move would be incorrect. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 21:01, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- "Stuntin Is a Habit" appears in the iTunes title. And if it has to be moved back anywhere,it should be Get like Me. ILikeMusicaLot (talk) 20:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- You missed the point. However, per Amazon.com's tracklisting for the album, the title does not include (Stuntin is a Habit). As such, the article needs to be moved back to Get Like Me (song). --InDeBiz1 (talk) 20:56, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- The "(song)" part is only for when there's another article with that name. ILikeMusicaLot (talk) 20:23, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- Per what I've already posted on your page, "Do not capitalize second and subsequent words unless the title is almost always capitalized in English (for example, proper names)." Thus it is correct to capitalize "Like" in this instance, as it is part of a song title, which is a proper name. The (song) notation is proper to differentiate between this song and any other work that might exist, such as a book or other item of the same title. To be more specific, (David Banner song) might even be more accurate. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 20:02, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- Furthermore, the more detailed description of the policy explains that if it is part of a two-word phrase (i.e. Like Me), it should be capitalized (see WP:MUSTARD)⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 00:44, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- It's not an adverb in this case,where did you get that from? BigTVFan (talk) 00:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- Dictionary.com ⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 16:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't matter what way you choose to slice it, policy states that it's part of a proper title, therefore the "L" is capitalized. Also, per Universal Records (and I can provide the promo flyer that I received from the label via email today, if needed), the official title is only Get Like Me. (Stuntin is a Habit) is not part of the official title, despite how it may or may not (I don't use iTunes, so I don't know) be listed on iTunes. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 16:39, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: According to you,the only words that get uncapitalized are "a","the" and "of". What about "and","for","from" and "in"? Those are supposed to be capitalized now (even though they don't look correct when capitalized)? BigTVFan (talk) 17:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something, but the relevance of your comment to this discussion is....? The issues at hand here are A) the capitalization of the "L" in the word "Like", B) the proper title of the record, and C) whether or not the designation of (song) should be applied to the new article title. A and B have been answered, I would say we've moved on to C. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 18:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- "Proper names are always capitalized, save for words such as "a" (unless the first word of the title), "of," and "the" (unless the first word of the title)." - That's something that you said. BigTVFan (talk) 18:50, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- And on topic to what your last comment said,I don't see any reason for the (song) part since no other article has the title "Get Like Me". BigTVFan (talk) 18:51, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- Now that I see that "like" should be capitalized and that there's no "Stuntin Is a Habit" in the official title,I'll make a move request. BigTVFan (talk) 18:53, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something, but the relevance of your comment to this discussion is....? The issues at hand here are A) the capitalization of the "L" in the word "Like", B) the proper title of the record, and C) whether or not the designation of (song) should be applied to the new article title. A and B have been answered, I would say we've moved on to C. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 18:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment: According to you,the only words that get uncapitalized are "a","the" and "of". What about "and","for","from" and "in"? Those are supposed to be capitalized now (even though they don't look correct when capitalized)? BigTVFan (talk) 17:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- It's not an adverb in this case,where did you get that from? BigTVFan (talk) 00:56, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- Furthermore, the more detailed description of the policy explains that if it is part of a two-word phrase (i.e. Like Me), it should be capitalized (see WP:MUSTARD)⇒SWATJester Son of the Defender 00:44, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
- Fwiw, in the discussion above, both ILikeMusicaLot and BigTVFan were sockpuppets of the same editor. — LlywelynII 17:40, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Writers
[edit]Per ASCAP information, I've corrected the writers on this release. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:23, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Policy discussion in progress
[edit]There is a policy discussion in progress at the Manual of Style which affects this page, suggesting that the capitalization of "like" should be removed. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — LlywelynII 16:17, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
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