Talk:Georgian Land Forces

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T-84 Oplot

here is reliable sources from eurodialogue.org kyivpost.com eurasianet.org geopoliticalmonitor.com

Alexander Vershbow clearly said that Ukraine holded this tanks to Georgia in 2012.

^[1] ^[2] ^[3] ^[4] ^[5].

Vershbow is not in any position to have information about any arms deal between Ukraine and Georgia and such an information was denied officialy anyway, years ago. Neither Georgia nor Ukraine confirms such an information. Those are outdated and unconfirmed ones beeing used over and over again by the same person. Now stop your efforts I'm tired of cleaning up all the time. Please !

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Land or Ground?

Is the proper name Land Forces or Ground Forces? Illegitimate Barrister (talk) 06:18, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Massive issues with vandalismTheMightyGeneral (talk) 08:07, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

I am trying to keep the arms table as realistic as possible while some people made some redicilous edits regarding the numbers. I don't know what it is, trolling or over-patriotism. In either case it's becoming embarassing. I won't delete the new table design but there once again has to be fixed a lot of stuff. In the new one, again overblown numbers on vehicles. Persons who edited them and constantly try to change them are delusional. The only increase in vehicle numbers is that of domestic ones. Especialy the number on Soviet vehicles is decreasing because of maintanance issues. Instead those people fabricate an increase of 100%+. The number of specific aircraft in the aircraft inventory are redicilous. Not even the pictures match. Wrong pictures of different weapons on domestic products. ( PDM-1, RD-7, ZCRS-122(G-122), G-13(G5)-not even a service rifle. There is only a number of G-13 which were experimental mockups etc ). There is a lot wrong with this article. Also when it says N/A it means N/A. I'm tired of cleaning this mess already.

I think the users adding false information are just over-patriotic. This article was very neglected until last year when I expanded it significantly. Since then I just gave up on trying to keep the Georgian users under control with regards to the information they add. I don't think you'll find a way to get it into their heads that they are actually damaging the article by adding inflated numbers. Tomh903 (talk) 14:13, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am Georgian myself and the behaviour of some of my compatriots is damn embarassing. It just doesn't get into their thick heads no matter how many times I try to explain or fix this article. It was stable for some while now someone else came up or maybe the same person/s ( I don't even care anymore ) and made the most redicilous edits so far. I will fix it again when I have time and would also appreciate if you or anyone else could provide some detailed info, preferebly 2013-2014. I don't know if anyone is able to provide details from Janes. Probably one of the best sources. Thank you for your attention Tomh903 TheMightyGeneral (talk) 19:13, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PS: that T-84 Oplot deal was hoax. It has been denied by Georgian media and officials already some years ago. Just sourcing a hoax claim is not a reason to keep the hoax alive .... It has been debunked.

Contradiction

Either Georgia was left with virtually no military on the dissolution of the Soviet Union, or two of the four Soviet divisions were transitioned into Georgian formations (the 10th Guards Motor Rifle Division at Akhaltsikhe was replaced by the 22nd Motorised Brigade, and the 152nd Motor Rifle Division at Kutaisi was replaced by the 21st Motorised Brigade). It cannot be both, as the article currently implies.Royalcourtier (talk) 23:32, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] ttp://eurodialogue.org/osce/Alexander-Vershbow-Visits-Georgia-Who-Holds-The-Key-To-The-War

[2] ttp://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/ukraine-to-hand-georgia-12-t-84-tanks-in-october-50287.html

[3] ttp://rt.com/news/ukraine-arms-trade-georgia/

[4] ttp://www.eurasianet.org/node/61428

[5] ttp://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/ukraine-still-supplying-arms-to-georgia-mp-2784/

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