Talk:Georgia election racketeering prosecution
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Is Floyd's bond revoked or not?
[edit]@Tuckerlieberman: You added the information that Willis demanded that Floyd be sent back to jail, claiming that he had violated his bond conditions. Now, I guess that this kind of demands in general should be considered fairly fast, since if e. g. an indicted person indeed is severely threatening potential witnesses, then a response delay for a couple of weeks could incur fatalities. Thus, I wonder whether McAfee has already decided to accept or to dismiss this motion, or, e. g., to skedule a specific hearing about it. Do you know anything about the latest development? JoergenB (talk) 14:23, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- No, I hadn't checked the news on this for a couple days. When I do look for news on this, I often go to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (the local newspaper), ajc.com, which puts the big news on the homepage and also has a section in the top navigation: "Trump Georgia Indictment". Just now, I see on the AJC homepage: "Trump co-defendant Floyd will fight to stay out of jail today "3h ago." Tuckerlieberman (talk) 14:28, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- @JoergenB The judge decided today not to revoke Floyd's bond. I updated the article. Feel free to change it if you see a better way to say it or you have different info. Tuckerlieberman (talk) 22:38, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Tuckerlieberman: Thanks! (No, actually, I have very little information. Specifically, I'm hampered by being an EU citizen and resident. At present, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution completely blocks our access, implicitly alleging that the GDPR makes its website "currently unavailable in most European countries".) JoergenB (talk) 13:28, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
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The settlements should be mentioned in the lead
[edit]The lead should be kept short, but also accurate. Presently, it mentions that four of the indicted persons have pleaded guilty, but not that those people (21% of the indicted) already have got their sentences. I think that this should be mentioned briefly in the lead, although this will add a few lines to the lead, since the impression the lead now gives is a bit inaccurate.
However, since this is an article with a highly controversial subject, and many active editors have contributed to the present version (and I have less access to sources than most others here), I prefer to hear any objections before making the lead longer. My suggestion is to change the last paragraph from the present
- A grand jury handed up the indictments on August 14, 2023, following an investigation launched in February 2021 by Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis. Four defendants have pleaded guilty to some of the charges and agreed to cooperate with the prosecution, and the rest have pleaded not guilty. The case is set to be heard in the Fulton County Superior Court with judge Scott F. McAfee presiding. Another judge denied requests from former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, former Department of Justice (DOJ) official Jeffrey Clark, and three other defendants to have their cases removed to federal court.
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- A grand jury handed up the indictments on August 14, 2023, following an investigation launched in February 2021 by Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis. The case was set to be heard in the Fulton County Superior Court with judge Scott F. McAfee presiding. Another judge denied requests from former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows, former Department of Justice (DOJ) official Jeffrey Clark, and three other defendants to have their cases removed to federal court. Four defendants have pleaded guilty to some of the charges and agreed to cooperate with the prosecution, and have received sentences including probation, fines, and making public apologies. The date of trial for the remaining fifteen defendants (who pleaded not guilty) is not yet set.
(Proposed changes are underlined, and appropriate references are to be kept and added.) JoergenB (talk) 18:43, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- Done I received no feedback (and thus assume that there are no protests to the proposed changes); and the changes still seem relevant. JoergenB (talk) 20:23, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
How to discuss the allegations against Fani Willis & Nathan Wade?
[edit]On Monday, January 8 — a court deadline for some filings — Mike Roman alleged that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is in a secret relationship with Nathan Wade, which is supposedly why she made him special prosecutor on this case and is paying him so much. Roman provided no evidence. Supposedly the evidence is in Wade's divorce filings, which are sealed. Several articles on this were published by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (ajc.com) this week, and HuffPost has a big article today suggesting that this issue may delay the case.
No one has yet added anything to this Wikipedia article. I'm not sure how to phrase it. It becomes important if:
* the allegations are true
* Fani Willis and/or Nathan Wade are removed from the case
* the case is delayed
* prosecutors' arguments or admissible evidence are weakened
* the case is dismissed
* Mike Roman doesn't get a plea deal (that seems pretty certain now) Tuckerlieberman (talk) 13:16, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Let's do what we do best. Follow the RS and maintain NPOV. Nowa (talk) 15:31, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I went ahead and added info per two RS. See Georgia_election_racketeering_prosecution#Issues Nowa (talk) 18:40, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- So what has happened? Is McAfee still deliberating; or has he decided, in one or the other direction? In the latter case, this should be added to the article. (If the Court 'dismissed the case' against Willis, finding that no financial benefit was proven, perhaps the text could be abbreviated a bit; but the rather unusal incident with a 'prosecution against the prosecution' probably still should be mentioned.) Actually, the section probably could be abbreviated a little, even if McAfee ruled 'against' Willis; the details of the deadlines for various 'parties' IMHO is not that interesting. JoergenB (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- There has been no ruling yet. I saw the judge just scheduled another hearing for March 1. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:12, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- So what has happened? Is McAfee still deliberating; or has he decided, in one or the other direction? In the latter case, this should be added to the article. (If the Court 'dismissed the case' against Willis, finding that no financial benefit was proven, perhaps the text could be abbreviated a bit; but the rather unusal incident with a 'prosecution against the prosecution' probably still should be mentioned.) Actually, the section probably could be abbreviated a little, even if McAfee ruled 'against' Willis; the details of the deadlines for various 'parties' IMHO is not that interesting. JoergenB (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
See Draft:Nathan Wade (prosecutor). rootsmusic (talk) 03:29, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
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