Talk:Gate Church of the Trinity, Kyiv Pechersk Lavra

Gate Church of the Trinity, Kyiv Pechersk Lavra was a Art and architecture good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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Date	Process	Result
May 12, 2007	Good article nominee	Not listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 12, 2007.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that the Gate Church of the Trinity (pictured), originally constructed as an ascetic Kievan Rus' style church, is now lavishly decorated with Ukrainian Baroque style ornaments?

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GAC nomination

I have failed this for GA status (it's been on the nomination list long enough) because I just don't get the feeling it's comprehensive enough. This church has stood for nearly a millenium ... surely it has more history than three paragraphs worth? Certainly not when the intro promises "... [it has] been reconstructed many times through its history." For an article about a building/structure it is essential to have this (see Winchester Cathedral, which at least has a little more).

I'd also like to see a citation for: "Mykola spent 36 years as a monk, and founded the Monastery Hospital of the Trinity within the Lavra." Also, "... the overall visual uplifting effect created a heightened sense of spiritual power" and "The initial ascetic appearance was replaced with an intricate and fanciful baroque style" need to be cited if they are someone's opinion, rewritten to be less subjective, or taken out entirely if they can't. We do not make such aesthetic judgements in articles, not by ourselves. Daniel Case 20:42, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]