Talk:Garfunkel

this article needs to be changed as the logic of article is historicaly wrong, jewish surnames with german roots are not derivatives of yiddish, but directly of 18th centiry or 19th century german language as both austrian and german empires created spceial commicions "surnaming" the jewish population. they were either german or austrian and they would not use yiddish in giving jews theris surnames. back to the article Garfunkel as surname comes directly from Karfunkel, as does historicaly earlier created yiddish word wich is not the source of surname.

shemyaza* — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.210.87.150 (talk) 11:01, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not so. Many names sound German but are actually simply the Yiddish name of the mother or father of the family, in their Frankish (western German or Provintial South French) pronunciation and accent of Hebrew:

Many simply come from the Yiddish pronunciation of Biblical women's names: Sarah was (and still is by modern day Hassidim who still speak Yiddish) pronounced Soroh (sounds like Saw raw) or Sooreh in Galicia and the Ukraine, and nicknamed Sorry or Sue-ree. So you get Sorotzkin, Sirkin, and Suress or Sorross. For Rebecca it's Rivky, so Rivkin and Rivlin, and for Leah you get Lieba, which also means loved one in German, so Liebeskind - loved one's kid, but also Liba's child, which originally means Leah's child. Moskow is the name of a Russian city but Moshko is a nickname for Moshe the Hebrew way of pronouncing Moses' name, and the Yiddish pronunciation of Moshe is Moy Shee, or Moy Sha. So Moskovitch, and Moshkowitz, and Mushitz, and Mosenson. And then we have Jacob (pronounced anywere between Ya-akov, Yankif and Yanki (like in Yanki Doodle, which is short for Jacob David), Yego (like in Diego), Kobee, Jack (and the same name in a French accent which would sound more like Shock), Jake, and Yakub. So we get: Yakobovitch, Jacobow, Jackson, Yakovson, Diegos, Ben-Yakov, Kovitch, and we didn't scratch the surface yet.

In the case of Garfunkle, it was pronounced Garfinkle as the Yiddish (originally Frankish) pronunciation of the word. Yes it meant Car-funkle but that too comes from an origin, the same origin as "Finklestein", meaning a spark stone, just like Yiddish is actually Yudisch - Jew da ish. Finkle is simply Funkle in the Yiddish (Zachsen, South French) pronunciation. And Car is from Carrot - Reddish like a raddish. פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 00:35, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]