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Reviewer: Daniel Case (talk · contribs) 18:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. I owe another review due to one of my nominees recently getting promoted, and this one is ... well, one I'm glad to take, though of course I would have regardless of what it was since it's spent the longest at this time waiting to get reviewed.

I will print it out, read it, do a light copyedit because I don't think articles should be failed just because of sloppy writing, and then get back in a week or so with my thoughts. Daniel Case (talk) 18:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alriiiiighht ... I'm back. This took less time than I thought.

I should say that this is a subject I'm knowledgeable in, not always the case with GA reviews I do (but when you make a point of reviewing the articles that have sat in the queue the longest, that comes with the territory). I watched the show (mainly by binging it between seasons 7 and 8), and I've read the books.

So I'm happy to say that this article is most of the way to where it needs to be. Copyediting was a breeze compared to a lot of GA noms I review ... while there was a little bit of wording and phrasing that could stand to be (and was) trimmed for brevity and clarity's sake, there wasn't a lot, nowhere near as much as I usually find (the article after my c/e is only about 200 bytes shorter, which is the least shortening I've seen in a long time, and well under my 1K threshold for article fat). The writing was consistently excellent in its attention to proper grammar, punctuation and mechanics. It read mostly like the same person had written it all the way through. And the footnotes were all done to code ... there was no need to make them consistent.

The article itself has the information you would expect of it, in generally the right amount of detail. There is nothing I would want to know that I couldn't have found out about here.

So I am well-disposed toward passing it. However, as is so often the case, there are a couple of things I would like to see addressed, so I am putting it  On hold for the usual week, which should be more than enough time to do those things. I will go over them below. Daniel Case (talk) 05:48, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK ... I think I can get this punch list finished before I go to bed:

  • The intro: I trimmed the second graf a bit since I thought it went into more detail than it needed to about the plot developments this season ... we just need to know that Ramsay dies, but not how, for instance; anyone interested in knowing can and will read that in the episode guide below.

    The third graf, though, is by contrast somewhat lean. We should round it out with some details about a) cast members who left the show this season (i.e., of course Iwan Rheon, Kristian Nairn, and Natalie Dormer, Jonathan Pryce, Finn Jones and the other casualties of the Green Trial in the season finale, b) cast members who returned after a season or two off like Isaac Hempstead Wright and David Bradley, and c) actors who returned even though it seemed their characters were done with the show, like Rory McCann. I'd also put Max van Sydow in as a one-off for this season along with Richard E. Grant and Ian McShane since their characters, for different reasons, do not go on into the next season.

 Working Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 00:52, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 00:18, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The episode list: Maybe we could have a graf before it (cited, of course), giving us a short recap of where we were, or at least certain characters, at the end of the previous season? The very first two episodes concern themselves in part with Melisandre's attempt, ultimately successful, to resurrect Jon. I think it would be useful to remind readers that he got murdered at the end of season 5; not everyone remembers that. Or that Sansa and Theon had just escaped Winterfell. And that Danaerys had gone missing on her dragon.
 Working Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 00:52, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:52, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • The cast list: All the actors must be cited. Most are, but that's not good enough here, so I tagged the section. This is absolutely the most important issue for GA.
 Working Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 00:52, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:37, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Production: We read near the end that actors were seen in Dubrovnik in costume, in apparent contradiction of HBO's earlier statements that for the first time in the show's run they would not be filming there. So, six years later, this begs the question ... did they film anything there nonetheless? We can and should be able to find out.
 Working Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 00:52, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 15:57, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • DVD Extras: Per the copyvio detector, let's not describe the extras on the DVD set with pretty much the exact same wording the Winter is Coming website does (And it does not look like they're copying us there).
 Working Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 00:52, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 15:54, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Single-sentence subsections: Per MOS:BODY: "Very short sections and subsections clutter an article with headings and inhibit the flow of the prose. Short paragraphs and single sentences generally do not warrant their own subheading". I accordingly do not think that we need the subsection on "copyright infringement." Just put that sentence near the beginning of the section.
 Working Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 00:52, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 15:48, 4 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, that's it. I also have some ideas for what we can do with the article to get it more toward FA, if that's what you're interested in doing, that I'll be sharing later. Happy editing!! Daniel Case (talk) 06:29, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Some Dude From North Carolina: Alright ... thanks for at least acknowledging this. I'll give you another week to at least get substantially started. If you need/want more time, let me know here. Daniel Case (talk) 15:12, 31 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Some Dude From North Carolina: Good work so far. I recognize that completely sourcing the cast will take a while, so you have shown sufficient progress to earn another week. Daniel Case (talk) 04:58, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Daniel Case: All  Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. The article is a  Pass Daniel Case (talk) 23:21, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]