Talk:Gaha

No evidence that Oyo collected tribute from the Ashanti Empire or Ga people

 All these countries including the Gas and Ashanti paid tributes to the Oyo empire.[4] 

This comes from this source-' 'Johnson, Samuel (1921). The History of the Yorubas from the earliest times to the beginning of the British Protectorate. London: Lowe and Brydone (Printers) Limited. pp. 178–187. ISBN 9781642275308.' '

Johnson doesn't provide a date as to when Oyo extracted this tribute nor does he provide an inline citation for evidence. I wouldn't expect a source from 1921 to be highly accurate especially if it doesn't provide inline Citations.

This source, gives an account of the geographical expansion of the Ashanti in the 18th century and it utilises primary sources including the works of Joseph Dupuis. There is no evidence Oyo extended into Ashanti or collected tribute from them in the 18th century. <ref>https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-african-history/article/abs/structure-of-greater-ashanti-17001824/EB3D39FAB7E75ED5CE16067A1EC641F6

Ivor Wilks writes that the Ga kingdom of Accra was conquered by Akwamu and the Akyem throughout the 18th century, not the Oyo.<ref>https://www.jstor.org/stable/41405705?seq=1#metadata_info_tab_contents ((Kwesi Yema (talk))

Re: No evidence that Oyo collected tribute from the Ashanti Empire or Ga people

Greetings Mr. Kwesi Yema. Thank you for your contributions to African history. Please, sir, you had deleted A part of the Gaha article, which according to you "I wouldn't expect a source from 1921 to be highly accurate especially if it doesn't provide inline citations." Please, are you an authority on this? I got hold of the Journal "The Rise of the Akwamu Empire 1650-1710" But this does not make Rev Samuel Johnson'S book published in 1921, a lie. Actually, Rev Samuel Johnson completed his works in 1897.https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Samuel_Johnson_(Nigerian_historian). Also if you would please, read Seventeen Years in the Yoruba Country. Memorials of Anna Hinderer ISBN 978 1371 184346. he Worked directly with David Hinderer. As per Oyo Empire expansions into Dahomey, Popo, Ga, and Ashanti, in addition to Rev. Samuel Johnson's work, the following citations made references (1) The Cambridge History of Africa ( c.1600-c.1790) -ISBN:0 521 20413 5, Cambridge University Press Pg 229-252 (2)African History From the Earliest Times to Independence 2nd Edition by Philip Curtin, Steven Feierman, Leonard Thompson, and Jan Vansina Pg 203-210 (3) General History of Africa: Africa from the Seventh to the Eleven Century, James Currey ISBN: 0-520-06698-7 Pg 255-256 (4) The History of the Yoruba People, by S Adebanji Akintoye ISBN 978-2-35926-005-2 Pg 248-260

Sir, I would Kindly await your response. Thank you Bo2ly (talk) 02:45, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Bo2ly. Samuel Johnson fails to provide an inline citation for his claim that the Oyo took tribute from the "Ashanti and Gas". He fails to provide a year or what kind of tribute it was. I've checked the sources you shared and none of them verify Mr. Samuel's claim. Mr. Samuel himself does not use these sources as a reference either.

1) Cambridge for example doesn't and you can check for yourself:

https://books.google.com/books?id=GWjxR61xAe0C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

2)The work by Jan Vansina and co do not make this claim especially with the pages you cited;

https://books.google.com/books/about/African_History.html?id=JKZjQgAACAAJ&redir_esc=y

3) The third source by UNESCO doesn't support any theory that Oyo took tributes from Ga or Ashanti. https://books.google.com/books?id=tw0Q0tg0QLoC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q=oyo&f=false

4)Doesn't provide verification either; https://read.amazon.com/kp/embed?asin=B00P9RSUCE&reshareId=M6ADQA2FS6A0CHE3G6V1&reshareChannel=system

((Kwesi Yema (talk) 13:17, 2 December 2022 (UTC))