Talk:Gaelic Journal

A fact from Gaelic Journal appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 April 2010 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Gaelic Journal, first published in 1882, was described as being "the first journal devoted to the living Irish language"?

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Reference 1a and 1b are not valid sources. They just link back to the article itself and do not lead outside the wiki. I suggest removing the reference and suggest inserting a {{fact}}. Any objections? Obviously if someone can correct the reference that would be more desirable. --MacTire02 (talk) 09:23, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you misunderstand. The link takes you to the full reference under the Reference section. No fact tag is required. Cavila (talk) 09:31, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, that might have confused me too. I'd suggest simplifying the access to the source for the reader. Hohenloh⁺ 11:54, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, hmm. I can't really see what the problem is, the active links from the letters a and b going back to the text? That's the way it is whenever <ref name> is used to gather identical references, same way ^ goes back to a single reference. Or is it the separation of references from full citation? Anyway, I really prefer not having the full {{citation}} templates within the text, but I'll change the format if others feel confused. Finn Rindahl (talk) 14:38, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't like having the citation templates in the article's body text, you can always sort them in the bottom of the article inside the {{Reflist}}, using the |refs= parameter, and then using the WP:REFNAME in the body. See Arent Solem or F. S. Platou for examples. --Eisfbnore ^talk 08:08, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Anyone, please feel free to change the format of the refs in this article if another format than the one currently used is preferred. Best regards, Finn Rindahl (talk) 11:37, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. And while we're at it: The first ref lacks publisher information. Best, Eisfbnore ^talk 13:03, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, looks much better. I'm really not sure who should be listed as publisher for that source, there's a note at the end of the article on its "origin-history" however. Finn Rindahl (talk) 13:08, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll guess there are three possibilities:

Cite the original, off-line piece:

Ó Flannghaile, Tomás (1883). "Our Position". Gaelic Journal. Dublin. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

...or cite the chapter in Flannghaile's 1896 For the tongue of the Gael book:

Ó Flannghaile, Tomás (1896). "The Starting of the Gaelic Journal, November 1882". For the tongue of the Gael: A selection of essays literary and philological on Irish-Gaelic subjects. Dublin: City of London Book Depôt. {{cite book}}: |journal= ignored (help)

Or simply cite the web entry at Library Ireland:

"The Starting of the Gaelic Journal, November 1882". Library Ireland. Retrieved 10 April 2010.

I'd prefer the first. --Eisfbnore ^talk 15:48, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bump. --Eisfbnore ^talk 19:30, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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