Talk:Gabriel Harvey

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Need confirmation, but could be a significant bit a trivia related to Gabriel Harvey.

From a sermon by Don Southworth:

Goodbye is a relatively new word.  The word first appeared in a letter written
by someone named Gabriel Harvey in 1575.  Harvey contracted the more traditional
“God be with ye” to “godbwye” and over the course of the next 300 years goodbye
slowly became the words we use when we part.  According to the Century Dictionary,
goodbye was “originally a pious form of valediction, used in its full significance,
but now a mere conventional formula without meaning, used at parting.”

--Samatva 13:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The caricature which illustrates this page is probably not a real portrait of Harvey. It appears in a Thomas Nashe pamphlet, and Nicholl in his biography of Nashe suggested it was simply an old woodcut that happened to be at the printer's, put in for a joke. The person is not wearing academic dress and in any case the illustration is the same as one appearing on an early broadside ballad, 'Anything for a quiet life' (see http://ballads.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/about.html#) RLamb (talk) 23:16, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That ballad was printed circa 1625, according to Hyder Rollins, The Pepys Ballads, Vol. 2, pgs. 18-21. The printer, "G. P.," is thought to be George Purslowe, who was only active between 1614 and 1632. Harvey not wearing academic dress is part of the ruthlessness of the caricature, which Nashe describes as showing him "not in the pantofles of his prosperity, as he was when he libeled against my lord of Oxford, but in the single-soled pumps of his adversity, with his gown cast off, untrussing, and ready to bewray himself upon the news of the going in hand of my book." Like a man being caught on the toilet, in other words, as the pun on "Ajax" / "a jakes" (very common at the time) makes pretty explicitly. 2600:1010:A130:5D5A:F0B9:78CB:F09C:B277 (talk) 18:54, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Harvey was not a poet. He wrote some latin learned bombastic pieces, as any scholars did then. He friended a true, great poet (Spenser), but he was not at all. He was the classic example of the elizabethan pompous scholar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.23.235.159 (talk) 09:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]