Talk:Fullbore target rifle

Major rework

I have committed a fairly significant reworking of the content, including better citations and adding in F-Class. Around the edges I have also redirected "Match Rifle" to the Match Rifle section rather than it pointing randomly to the ICFRA article (MR isn't even an ICFRA discipline). Notably, I have added a "Naming convention" section to explain the distinction of "Target Rifle" and "Match Rifle" which can also be generic terms and therefore confusing (when is a target rifle not a Target Rifle!?). That confusion probably accounts for MR pointing at ICFRA (rifle matches, but not Match Rifle). However, I am concerned this is leading into the territory of Wikipedia:NOTGUIDE as it becomes almost guide/textbook like, and indeed this criticism could be levelled at several sections of the article as the rules and equipment section are somewhat rehashing the rulebooks. Please keep in mind WP:NOTAGUIDE when continuing to improve the page. We should possibly remove some of the technical/detailed rule aspects and keep it very "overview", possibly with more weight to the history of Target Rifle and major competitions. Hemmers (talk) 10:25, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, Wikipedia generally uses lowercase for the names of sports and other competitions and avoids the notion that capitalization indicates a special meaning. See MOS:SPORTCAPS, WP:SIGCAPS, MOS:CAPS, WP:LOWERCASE, and WP:Sentence case, for example. I see the same phenomenon in the International Confederation of Fullbore Rifle Associations article. This comment applies to "Target Rifle", "Match Rifle", "Palma Rifle", and "Palma Match". I also don't see any citations to sources that directly discuss the capitalization. "NRA target rifle" seems sufficient to identify the use of NRA rules, and similar for "ICFRA target rifle", when referring to target rifle competitions. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How is this not an inappropriate content fork of International Confederation of Fullbore Rifle Associations? Cinderella157 (talk) 01:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It does also talk about some competitions that are conducted under other rules outside of ICFRA, but I don't have a clear opinion about it. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:57, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

BarrelProof (above) has referred to issues of capitalisation arising in the rework and some of the relevant guidance. I addressed the issues of capitalisation in this edit. However, you have revereted some of these changes here with the edit summary: ce, spleling, brevity. capitalised "Target Rifle" and "Match Rifle" in Naming conventions section since they're proper nouns for specific disciplines, as distinct from "a target rifle" (a rifle used for shooting targets).

The term "Fullbore" refers to ... It is being defined in this context (ie a term of art). Do not cap per MOS:SIGNIFCAPS.
(typically .22lr) Cap LR as an initialism.
F-Class – discipline using ... Do not cap after hyphen per MOS:HYPHENCAPS (class is not a proper noun).
"Target Rifle" (TR) and "Match Rifle" (MR) refer to specific classes in NRA and ICFRA competition. It is being defined in this context (ie a term of art). Do not cap per MOS:SIGNIFCAPS. Also, we don't cap when introducing an initialism per MOS:EXPABBR.
NRA Target Rifle – discipline ..., ICFRA Target Rifle – discipline ... and Match Rifle – discipline defined ... Per MOS:SPORTCAPS, these are not capped. These are no different from any other sports discipline such as coxless four. Furthermore, per the general guidance at MOS:CAPS, we consider usage in independent reliable sources - ie sources independant of sporting organisations. When we look at sources (eg here) the term is not consistently capitalised in independent sources in a context that is referring to the competition. Using caps to distinguish the competition target rifle from a rifle for shooting targets falls to MOS:SIGNIFCAPS and we don't do that.

These changes have been amended per the prevailing P&G. Cinderella157 (talk) 03:41, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What does fullbore mean?

The title is my question. The article doesn't tell me. That makes it all rather useless. HiLo48 (talk) 19:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to refer to using relatively large calibre firearms, especially those larger than .22 inches / 5.6 mm, according to the OED here. (And in the United States it mostly means proceeding with very high speed or high intensity, apparently referring to making full utilization of large-bore pistons in order to push the limits of engine capability.) —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fullbore is contrasted with smallbore, where the latter uses .22 short, .22 long or .22 long rifle rimfire ammunition per [1] Cinderella157 (talk) 04:21, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So can it please be explained in the article? HiLo48 (talk) 22:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

FYI, you can edit Wikipedia yourself. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:59, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Me adding content about guns would not be good for Wikipedia. HiLo48 (talk) 03:24, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]