Talk:Friar
references
[edit]This article had comments masquerading as references. I am removing the comments and hopefully folks can contribute some references. Toddst1 (talk) 20:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
non-Catholic friars
[edit]This article deals exclusively with Catholicism, but there are apparently Anglican friars as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.104.106.117 (talk) 08:03, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
re: Conventual Franciscans and Third Order
I am writing this partly as a member of the Secular Franciscan Order (part of the Thrid Order) who spent a number of years volunteering at a Franciscan Friary and Retreat Center. My main point is that the Conventual Franciscans are not part of the Third Order, but an offshoot of the First ORder (Friars Minor) who appeared shortly after death of St. Francis. they decided to live in cities in convents, hence their name; the original Friars did not do this. Religious who belong to the third order are called Third Order Regular (TOR), whereas the Conventuals are called OFM Conventuals (OFM Conv.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.229.170 (talk) 18:45, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Mendicant Orders of Friars in The Anglican Tradition include "The Society of St. Francis (Franciscans) and The Anglican Of Preachers (Dominicans). Br. Franklin Kline OP. franklin.kline@sbcglobal.net 107.212.216.35 (talk) 03:59, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Etymology of Friar and Fray
[edit]It should be noted that in the Gascon language, frair (as written in occitanist spelling, written fray in medieval spelling as actually pronounced) means both brother and friar. It is most likely at the origin of the word fray in Spanish, fraile may have derived from fray and not the other way round, unlike what it is generally believed. The gascon word fray (plural: frays /frairs in gascon) indeed poses a problem in Spanish due to the ending in -ay, unknown and inappropriate for the formation of plurals in that language. This may have induced the reconstruction of fraile : thus fray (sing.) > frayes (plur.)>frailes (plur.) >fraile (sing). It appears more likely than the English word friar comes also from the Gascon word frair / fray rather than from the normand word frere. This would explain the presence of the diftong in the English word. Remember that friar orders came from the continent, and occidental Gascony was part of the kingdom of England at that time. The royal edicts addressed by the Kings of England to their Gascon subjects were all written in Gascon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.202.91.11 (talk) 09:09, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
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Benedictines
[edit]Where do Benedictines fit in? Like Dominicans, they are also referred to as black friars. ♆ CUSH ♆ 21:33, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Benedictines are a monastic order, that they are also sometimes called "black friars" is mere coincidence. --Medusahead (talk) 10:50, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Intro is too technical
[edit]The intro to this page throws around words like "mendicant", "itinerant", and "holy order or brother" as though the reader understands what these concepts all mean. The intro needs to be intelligible to a non-religious high school student. Or in other words -- huh? Can someone who understands the subject matter please make an intro intelligible to lay people? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1C0:5E80:DE70:B67C:AB4C:70A4:FFCA (talk) 23:03, 20 August 2022 (UTC)