Talk:French cruiser Pascal

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
June 12, 2020	Good article nominee	Listed
October 19, 2021	Good topic candidate	Promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 26, 2020.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the French cruisers Pascal (pictured), Descartes, Bugeaud, and Chasseloup-Laubat were deployed to East Asia as part of France's response to the Boxer Uprising in Qing China?

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:French cruiser Pascal/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Usernameunique (talk · contribs) 20:11, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Design

a war scare with Italy in the late 1880s — I think I've asked this before, but is there an article about this?
- Nope
French Navy — Link to French Navy?
- Done
The Descartes class were — This should be the "class was", no?
- Yup
383–401 officers and enlisted men — No breakdown available? And was it truly the exact same as for Descartes?
- Yes and yes
She had a cruising radius of 5,500 nautical miles (10,200 km; 6,300 mi) at 10 knots (19 km/h; 12 mph) and 1,000 nmi (1,900 km; 1,200 mi) at 19.5 knots. — Does "cruising radius" mean how far she could go one one tank of gas (so to speak)? Also, any reason 19.5 knots isn't converted?
- Yes and it's already converted the sentence before
Perhaps Descartes should be introduced in this section, and are there any comparisons worth mentioning? Of course, most of that is best addressed in Descartes-class cruiser.
- Same as the Descartes review
  - Same response. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Armor protection consisted of a curved armor deck — "armored deck", or is an "armor deck" a thing? Although if there's a way of not using "armor ... armor" that might be better.
- Same as the Descartes review
  - Same response. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Red linked to armor deck --Usernameunique (talk) 19:25, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No information on the interior?
- Nope

Service history

Pascal was sent to the region in January 1898, and that year, the French squadron in the Far East also included the old ironclad Bayard, the protected cruisers Descartes and Jean Bart, and the unprotected cruiser Duguay-Trouin — "and that year" makes it sounds as if information about what happened to Pascall is going to follow. Perhaps "in January 1898; that year, the"
- Reworded, see how that sounds
the protected cruisers Descartes — You never mention that Descares was the sister ship.
- It's mentioned now in the Design section
I don't suppose any further information about her service history is known? Was she ever part of a named division (e.g., something like the Division de l'Atlantique)?
- No, unfortunately - in a nutshell, the French built a series of protected cruisers, thinking that they'd be used either as fleet scouts or commerce raiders, but then they relatively quickly decided that larger armored cruisers were better in both roles, and so many of the protected cruisers were kept in reserve
  - Is this something that is worth adding to the article? It's probably not necessarily, but it's interesting context. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Probably so - I've added a line on this. Parsecboy (talk) 17:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notes

Can "France" be a bit clearer, or at least in italics?
Shouldn't "Service Performed" and "France" have years?
- See my replies in the Descartes review to both of the above points
  - Same response re year. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Unitalicized "Service Performed" for consistency with the Descartes article. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:27, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

Brassey could take a link.
- Done
The public-domain sources that are online could take links.
- Highlighting. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Added the last few of these. Parsecboy (talk) 17:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Overall

Parsecboy, comments above. You'll recognize a number of them (particularly in Design) from your Descartes nomination. --Usernameunique (talk) 21:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for another review. Parsecboy (talk) 17:50, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - No problem, Parsecboy. Responses above. --Usernameunique (talk) 18:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - @Usernameunique: - sorry for the delay, I got busy with real life things for a few days. Parsecboy (talk) 17:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - No problem, Parsecboy. Sorry if the multiple pings seemed aggressive—wasn't meant that way. In any event, I've made a couple minor edits for consistency with Descartes, and am passing now. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:28, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        Thanks again, and no worries on the pings :) Parsecboy (talk) 19:42, 12 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]