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Native language

What was Freddie's native language? Since he got his education in India, you'd think he'd know another language. At the school that he attended, English is not spoken, at least to my knowledge. He might of known Gurati. And he was born in Zanzibar, not many people speak English there, so, I'm confused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Onerace (talk • contribs) 02:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC) i believe that he spoke indian, farsi and english —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.201.174 (talk) 23:24, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

You obviously made that up on the spot, because of his origins. There is no language as Indian. He would have spoken Indian languages such as Hindi or Gujarati. Just because he had Iranian ancestry like all Parsis does not qualify for him to know Farsi. If anything, he probably knew a little Avestan and/or Persian, as well as Gujurati and English. Warrior4321^{Contact Me} 21:42, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

First off, Farsi/Parsi is not English, the English counterpart is Persian, same as Deutch would be German in English, so when you say Farsi, you are not using English. Second of all, Persian was the official language of all courts and governments in India until the English Raj and the British take over of India, who declared English as the official language, scrapping Persian, which again was changed in early 1900's to Hindi. If the British left India alone, Persian would be one of biggest languages in the world. As of now, Persian is the 14th largest spoken language in India. Persian and Parsi/Farsi are names for the same language. Avestan and Ancient Persian are two different Iranian languages all originating from the oldest language in the Iran region, that being Sanskrit which later was migrated to India alongside the Veda's. And yes, All Zoroastrian ceremonies include the Persian language. --94.195.194.144 (talk) 20:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I think the OP was simply asking what Mercury's original language was, and trying to point out that he was raised in areas where English is not the native language. Looked at factually (if the article is correct), his original language(s) could have been:

• Persian: His parents were Parsis/Zoroastrians
• English: He was born in Zanzibar while it was a British protectorate
  • The majority language of Zanzibar is not listed in its history at the time of Mercury's birth. Arabic? Persian? English?
• Hindi/Gujarati: The article does not say when his family moved to India; if he were sufficiently young enough, he might have spoken one or more Indian languages from the cradle

It would not be difficult to believe Mercury was multilingual, yet that and his original language(s) have yet to be referenced. 71.234.215.133 (talk) 14:48, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Images

Can We Get some better images?--141.209.214.22 (talk) 22:41, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

NOTE: This is User:141.209.214.22, not User:E Wing (please see page history). E Wing (talk) 00:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I just put up a nicer looking image. 146.186.39.94 (talk) 20:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Can we put up two close up pictures? E.g. a picture of 1991 Freddie in the Fact Box, and then the current 1970's Fact Box picture further down the page. Fact Box pictures should be as up-to-date as possible, and early pictures should appear further down the page. TopGearFreak (talk) 12:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

As long as the picture is a free one. Because there are free images currently available then a fair use image can't be used. So it must either be one of the two at Commons:Freddie Mercury or one of the others with the entire band at Commons:Category:Queen, unless another free image can be found. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 14:48, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

I changed the photo to one that is not offensive. 128.118.174.34 (talk) 22:58, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Would we be able to crop Freddie from a photo of the whole band? Maybe that would be a good compromise, because the photo of Mercury from Argentina is certainly better than the other two ones. I don't know if it would be safe to do, though. CarpetCrawler (talk) 19:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

As long as the image of the band was a free one then it would be fine. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 08:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Current image

The current image is a cropped version of one that is currently on the Commons. I feel that it is so much better than the image we had here before it. Does anyone disagree? CarpetCrawler (talk) 05:09, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree, but I don't think the other should be removed from the article altogether; there's still room for it. Still room for the picture of the statue, too, I imagine. faithless (^speak) 05:12, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Oooh, OK, go ahead and put the original image anywhere, if you want! I was just saying that I think the current infobox image is a big improvement. CarpetCrawler (talk) 05:19, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for changing the photo CarpetCrawler!--Greg D. Barnes (talk) 23:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Glad to see a consensus was finally reached! It seems like people were arguing for quite some time about Freddie's picture! CarpetCrawler (talk) 21:35, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Although CarpetCrawler's photo is not the best one out there, at least it is not offensive to Freddie's fans. Let's trash that other one. 146.186.39.80 (talk) 19:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

The other one is not offensive either but if you want it gone from Wikipedia then you need to go to Commons and make the request there. I would suspect though the image will not be deleted because of a perceived offensiveness but will require a policy based reason. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 00:03, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Interview with Mary Austin

http://www.freddie.ru/e/archives/daily_mail/

As stated just above the article, there are some factual errors in it mainly concerning dates. However, there is more than enough to go off with what Mary Austin said alone. It's quite long but we could use a lot in here. Read through it, and see what you think. Xanthic-Ztk (talk) 00:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Images

I've uploaded three images I got permission for from an author on Flickr. The three images are: File:FreddieMercuryNov1978.jpg, File:FreddieMercurySinging1978.jpg, File:FreddieMercurySinging21978.jpg. Add them to the article if you wish. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 22:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. They look a lot better than most of what was available. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 06:06, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Nehrams! These are beautiful photos that will REALLY improve the quality of the article. Boab (talk) 15:58, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Parsi

It is important to note that he is a Parsi of India. There are parsis living in Pakistan after the partition. So it is important to note that he is a Parsi from India.Dewan S. Ahsan 18:15, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

It says that he was of Parsi descent and grew up in India. Saying that he was Indian Parsi and grew up in India is redundant. Unless there is some fundamental difference between Parsis in India and those in Pakistan, there is no reason for this. faithless (^speak) 20:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Cocaine

No mention of his cocaine use? - 72.9.18.87 (talk) 08:10, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

A rock star using drugs!? Stop the presses! faithless (^speak) 18:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Attitude. Tablas666 (talk) 20:49, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Ethnicity vs. nationality

The "Ethnicity" section is inaccurate. Mercury was an ethnic Parsi-Persian. Virtually every biographical source confirms this. Now in terms of nationhood, he was born in Zanzibar of course, and lived in India for a time, and then moved on to England.

"Indian" is not an ethnicity anyway. "Indian" is a nationality, for a nation composed of many many ethnicities. His "Indian" relationship can be considered part of Mercury's multi-national background (including Zanzibar, UK, India), but is certainly not his ethnicity.

Also, whats with this whole "Azerbaijani Zoroastrian" line listed at the top of the article. There is no source for that, and it contradicts the well documented (and sourced) history that he was born in Zanzibar to Parsi parents - who came from India. So where does the Azerbaijan part fit into the equation? Kmehrabi (talk) 01:31, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Parsis have also mixed extensively with the local South Asian population over the course of their millennia of residence in the region, proven by genetics (see page on Parsis). While they are of Persian origins, the fact remains that they are an Indian ethnic group. Of foreign descent yes, but an Indian ethnic group all the same. Persian in the contemporary sense means someone of the current Iranian diaspora. And Freddie Mercury is not part of this diaspora. Freddie Mercury is a Parsi and therefore qualifies as both Persian and Indian. Indian is not an ethnicity, this is true. But it is a historically well defined region and Parsis as a distinct community are part of this cultural region. Your argument does not completely hold. He can be considered both. But in the birth section, his parents should be labeled as Parsis from Gujarat. -User: Afghan Historian

Countertenor/three octaves

I think the article does a pretty good job giving references to him being a countertenor and having a range of three octaves, not four. Three is impressive, but four is pretty impossible to believe without some credible reference. Banaticus (talk) 20:43, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, he could do four. when it says he could do "one octave in falsetto" that means that he could go one octave higher than what he would nomally talk in. You can take that from a musician. 24.18.201.174 (talk) 23:29, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

HIV status section

I mean no offense, but this section reads really poorly. I don't feel confident tackling it myself as I don't know the issue well enough, but it feels all over the place and more importantly unencyclopedic (with the CAPITALIZATIONS for EMPHASIS). If someone who is more informed on the issue could take a stab at rewriting it, that would be greatly appreciated.76.182.10.100 (talk) 01:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Married?

Was Mercury ever married? If so, then what children did he have, and who was his spouse? BulsaraAndDeacon (talk) 13:08, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

He was never married, although he considered Mary Austin his wife when they were together, and then called Jim Hutton his husband while they were together. He did not have any children, only cats. ... discospinster _talk 03:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Out of all 4 Queen members, was he the only member to stay single throughout his life? BulsaraAndDeacon (talk) 11:51, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes. ... discospinster _talk 18:53, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Some new edits

Hi, I made some new edits. I removed certain sentences that seemed really trivial in a distracting kind of way. I also changed the order of certain paragraphs and tried to made it sound less like a fan page. Boab (talk) 17:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

"Could barely read music", eh?

Resolved

I found an article in Rolling Stone in which they did an interview with Freddie which states the complete opposite. If he studied classical composition as a kid for FOUR YEARS, then how the hell could he not be able to read music? I knew something was up when I read that he "could barely read music". There's NO WAY anyone, no matter how musically gifted they are, could write such complex and intricate melodies without knowing how to read music. It's just plain impossible, I tell you. 24.189.85.202 (talk) 01:02, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Please watch your language. There are little kids who read Wikipedia articles and talk pages. As well, there is no need for the capitalization. You can use the bold feature instead. Warrior4321Contact Me 07:00, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Profanity is a style guideline for articles; users can pretty much say whatever they want on talk pages (with few exceptions, profanity not being one of them - besides, all he said was "hell"). However, you should refrain from refactoring the comments of others unless you have a very good reason for doing so, and potty mouth is no reason at all. faithless (^speak) 09:27, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, per WP:Civility, "Even during heated debates, editors should behave reasonably, calmly, and courteously, in order to keep the focus on improving the encyclopedia and to help maintain a pleasant work environment". WP:Civility include talk pages, while WP:CENSORED talks about articles. Warrior4321Contact Me 21:24, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:CIVILITY and WP:CENSORED both apply to all areas of Wikipedia, but that's neither here nor there. Using profanity is not in itself uncivil. Some find it in poor taste, and that's fine. But if a person isn't mature enough to handle an occasional swear then they should probably steer clear of the internet altogether. This goes especially for anyone who would be offended by the use of the word "hell." :-) There is nothing unreasonable, discomposed, or discourteous about saying "hell." faithless (^speak) 01:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Edit warring

What's the deal with the phrase "making them one of the best-selling music artists of all time"? I see that it's also used at the Queen page, but so what?Dosbears (talk) 22:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Pop culture

what happened to the section on Mercury references in pop culture?--74.178.228.150 (talk) 23:43, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Different picture

I recently got a picture that was available for use with the Wikipedia Copyright policies. The image looks like this ---> Image:Freddiemercury.jpg.

We could use that picture instead of the picture currently there, which looks like this --> Image:Queen - Freddie Mercury.jpg Mr.TrustWorthy----Got Something to Tell Me? 20:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I like that, think it would be a good change.Dosbears (talk) 17:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Should I change it then? Mr.TrustWorthy----Got Something to Tell Me? 20:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Probably give it a few days for people to see that there's a discussion. I like the proposed picture because Mercury is more recognizable. The other picture could be a generic RHPS shot.Dosbears (talk) 22:56, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

In future please make sure you update the caption that goes with the picture. Trust me Freddie didn't look like THAT in 1978. (I assume that was taken at Live Aid, 1985). Please correct me if I'm wrong. Ooneman (talk) 07:48, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Looks like the new picture needs some source and copyright information filled in. It's been marked for deletion in one week (23 Aug.), if it doesn't have the proper information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dosbears (talk • contribs) 00:54, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Taken care of. Mr.TrustWorthy----Got Something to Tell Me? 05:36, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The "new image" is a copyrighted image widely available on search engines for years (www.torrentportal.com/uploads/images/3913421LiveAid_Freddy%20Mercury.jpg, http://www.queenzone.com/multimedia/pictures/images/Freddie_Mercury/1352002212.jpg). Looks like a magazine scan to me. Immediately reverted to previous image. 88.109.25.35 (talk) 13:35, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

See siteadvisor.com (says it's a proble) and safeweb.norton.com (reports no problems) before viewing torrentportal.com. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 08:07, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Image is properly licensed. Mr.TrustWorthy----Talk to Me! 16:19, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Unconvincing. Explain how. Credit was given to Flickr uploader, yes, but the uploader gave no details whatsoever on the file. Judging from the fact that this image has been widely available on search engines for years and is clearly a professionally-shot photograph, I think it's safe to say that it's copyrighted. Immediate revert. 88.109.25.35 (talk) 02:11, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

IP editor is correct. Flickr chases no uploaders for proof of ownership or source. Anyone can web-steal or scan an image to Flickr and claim it as their own. Which has obviously been done here since the image widely available in a Google image search. Only free-use images with clear sourcing should be used. Never Flickr. GripTheHusk (talk) 03:14, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

The current image in the infobox is from Flickr as well....Mr.TrustWorthy----Talk to Me! 05:59, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but the uploader provided the relevant copyright information, and the image is eligible for inclusion on Wikipedia. Your image was not. End of discussion. 88.110.37.83 (talk) 17:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

It isn't the end of discussion, concensus must be formed. Anyway, what information does that image contain which my proposed image does not? Mr.TrustWorthy----Talk to Me! 20:38, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

One major red flag about the uploader who stole the Live-Aid image that you tried to add is that he also has images stolen from the uploader of the other image currently in the box. The Live-Aid picture is definitely a pirate pic. Wether B (talk) 20:54, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

It isn't the end of the discussion. The original subject was to add a different picture. That topic can sttill be pursued. Just not pursued in the direction of the copyvio Live-Aid image that was recently added. There are sources for free-use images that should be pursued. Flickr and Photobucket and similar sites are havens for stolen images. But there are government and press sources that host free-use images. An image will show up in time with some digging. But the digging has to be in the right spot. Google image search just leads to trouble. The Real Libs-speak politely 17:44, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

If there is a concern over the copyright status of the image then don't display it here, just link to it. To Warrior4321, if the image is not free then it doesn't matter what consensus says. As long as there are free images they must be used and this comes up every once in a while look further up this page. The current image is a marked improvement over File:Queen 1984 0009.jpg anyway, I've tagged the image for deletion, see Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2009 August 20. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 08:07, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

United Nations Cultural Boycott

I think it's a bit unfair to slam Queen (as this article does) for violating the 1984 United Nations cultural boycott of apartheid South Africa. After all, Paul Simon violated the U.N. boycott too (and he profited handsomely from doing so), and yet this episode is completely ignored in the Wikipedia article on Simon.

The article doesn't "slam" Queen. It simply presents the facts. What's wrong with that? Eeekster (talk) 22:39, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

GA request and instrument list

I've checked this article against the criteria, and imo it still passes all of them up to GA standard. The one exception if the list of instruments section, which is rightly templated as being unsourced. I have moved this section here, so it can be sourced. Comprehensive lists of instruments played are not essential, so it not being in the article does not affect the broadness criterion. Presumably these can be sourced from the sleeve notes etc, so it is hopefully not a huge task. If someone very much disagrees, i can add it back, then the article can be reassessed and delisted, but i think it better to avoid the buraeucracy. Thanks!YobMod 17:41, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree largely with your action, but at least keep a few of his most famous instruments in his article Examples: The Baldwin Piano (he plays it live), the Korg M1 (he programmed it during the Miracle and Innuendo sessions), and his guitars (he's famous for saying "I only know three chords)."--Greg D. Barnes (talk) 06:18, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

His most important instruments or the instruments he is most identified with would be useful additions to the main part of the text. It already mentions his piano and guitar playing in various places, so there are natural insertion points for more detail. But citations are still needed, in order to pass GA criteria. So if you (or anyone) has citations for the most important instruments, then they can start to be intergrated into the text - it sounds from your post that you already have sources for some of these? Also, i want to clarify i only removed the section because of it being unreferenced - although i don't think such a list is needed, i am not totally against including the instuments in any form, as if citations are found, it indicates that sources consider them worth discussing.YobMod 10:39, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I read some interviews and articles on the internet that discuss Freddie's instrumentation. When I find them, I'll start adding instruments into the article. The problem is that, I don't want to add them if there are already in the article (so I don't add redundant information).--Greg D. Barnes (talk) 18:47, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan!YobMod 10:41, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Instruments used by Mercury

Grand pianos: Baldwin SD10 Concert Grand Bechstein D Concert Grand at the Trident Studios in London. Bechstein S Baby Grand Bösendorfer Imperial Concert Grand Kawai RX7 Concert Grand Steinway D Concert Grand Steinway S Baby Grand White Baby Grand (unknown brand) Yamaha C1 Baby Grand Yamaha C7 Concert Grand Yamaha CFIIIS Concert Grand Yamaha SF Concert Baby Grand (Zissou Edition) Upright pianos: Chappell Upright (unknown brand)

Electronic pianos: Roland RD1000 Wurlitzer EP200 Yamaha CP80 Synthesisers and samplers: E-mu Emulator II+ Fairlight CMIIIS Korg M1 Kurzweil K250 Oberheim OB8 Oberheim OBX Oberheim OBXA Roland Jupiter 8 Yamaha DX7 Other keyboard: Hammond organ Harpsichord (unknown brand)

Guitars: Ovation 12-string White Fender Telecaster Martin D-18

Film Section

The section itself is unsourced and unreferenced, the grammar is abominably poor and without expansion i cannot see it serving any truly useful purpose. It would be worth referencing appropriately and both expanding and clearing up language. Wolfe (talk) 21:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Queen: is vs have

In reading the Legacy: Continued popularity section (first para) I note:

• a quote from a critic: "Queen is..."
• an article sentence: "Queen have..."

I was under the opinion that Queen is a band, requiring the singular "is" or "has" since the name itself is singular (see Eagles for the treatment of a band's name already in the plural form). Seeing "have", which denotes plural, I am suddenly thrown into confusion. 71.234.215.133 (talk) 08:55, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Eagles is an American band, and convention on Wikipedia is that they are singular. Queen, on the other hand, are a British band, and convention is that they are referred to in the plural as a mass noun. Confusing though it may be, to try and achieve consistency is now probably more trouble than it's worth. Rodhullandemu 18:08, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

HIV status and sexual orientation

I really have a problem with the first sentence. "Mercury had been criticised[by whom?] for hiding his HIV status from the public for many years, waiting until the day before he died to admit that he had AIDS."

I know that 'who criticized him' is flagged, but the language in the second half of the sentence just seems wrong. Saying that he waited until the day before he died to admit he had AIDS makes it sound like he KNEW that he was going to die and that's the only reason why he said that he had it. That sentence structure should be reserved for "he had a new album coming out, but he performed one of the singles live the day before it was released".

I don't know how to change the wording of the sentence to make it sound more encyclopedic and less, well, rude and soothsayer-esque.

biancasimone (talk) 17:08, 8 October 2009 (UTC)biancasimone

I agree with you and shall try. Rumiton (talk) 13:07, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

TYVM Rumiton! biancasimone (talk) 07:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC)biancasimone

You're welcome. Rumiton (talk) 11:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Ashes

I'd like to see the part about his ashes being scattered in Montreux cited or removed. Mary Austin has spesifically stated she was to keep Freddies final restingplace a secret. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.110.137.7 (talk) 17:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Discography

After providing a link to both a Queen Discography article and a Freddie Mercury solo discography article, the section then lists his complete solo discography. Either it should be deleted, or the article on the solo discography is unnecessary. 98.221.124.80 (talk) 10:25, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Intro section

Could we possibly avoid hyperbole like 'four-octave range'? It's not true, and makes the page look amateurish. It seems to be used as a synonym for 'good voice'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.84.79.142 (talk) 14:48, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually, he did have a range close to four octaves if you include falsetto, so it's correct. Forgive me if I'm wrong. DrStrangelove64 —Preceding unsigned comment added by DrStrangelove64 (talk • contribs) 18:01, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

rolling stones link changed

Is located at http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/;kw=[3857,12126,12232], it doesn't work to put it as a link.

213.136.61.140 (talk) 14:05, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm talking about reference #4. Is it possible to fix it somehow? 213.136.61.140 (talk) 14:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 158.142.160.98, 10 October 2010

{{edit semi-protected}} Freddie Mercury was an Indian not a British he later got a British citizenship therefore is a British-Indian please correct this not just British but British-Indian 158.142.160.98 (talk) 04:45, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. This has been discussed many times in the past (see the archives of this talk page). The consensus was for British. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 07:40, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Talayee, 2 January 2011

{{edit semi-protected}} Hi whoever's going to read this. If I understand correctly it's been settled that F. Mercury is British-Indian. Why is it then that he's solely stated as a "British" musician? Secondly, why is his nationality stated as "British Persian?" That's a laugh! I highly doubt after 1300 years of his family being in India that he even has any substantial "Persian" blood in him - nevermind that being Persian is a linguistic and not ethnic denominator. This article shouldn't be semi-protected, but fully protected! Thanks! Talayee (talk) 12:54, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Talayee (talk) 12:54, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

(WP:LAME?) and see previous discussions. His blood has nothing to do with his nationality, which is undoubtedly British. Sigh. --Τασουλα (Shalom!) (talk) 16:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

You're actually right - that was rather lame of me. Ha ha. Peace out! Talayee (talk) 08:30, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

The conditions for full protection are described at WP:PP, in case you're curious. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 12:06, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Nah I just suggested you go and read it, the bit about Freddie's Page. People who bring it to the talk page aren't Lame. --Τασουλα (Shalom!) (talk) 12:55, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry sir but they aren't saying persian, like persia, they are saying parsi, and He wasn't born in India, He and His family came from a little island off of Africa called zanzibar, and he is a zoroastrain in faith, i might be making some spelling mistakes sorry for that, so sorry I doubt his family was in india for 300 years, or 1300 what ever you said, and the Parse or parsi what ever it is, it's pronounced like this PAR CEE sorta —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.89.194 (talk) 20:23, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Freddie's ashes

Freddie Mercury's ashes are not with his mother, They were Given to Mary Austin, Freddie told her never to disclose where she scattered them, Finally after bringing herself to scatter them, she did just that, And she kept her promise to Freddie as well, She has never told anyone where she spread them, although alot of people seem to think in swiss. But no one truly knows only mary —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.193.89.194 (talk) 20:17, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Zanzibar is in Tanzania

Zanzibar is not an independent nation. Also, if Stone Town, Freddie Mercury's birthplace, is politically part of Zanzibar City, "Zanzibar City, Tanzania" would be even better for the infobox. That he was born in Stone Town and its political status at the time of his birth and other such details can be noted in the body of the article. Methychroma (talk) 07:56, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Usually we do it the other way round; the infobox will show the actual state at the time of the person's birth (because it has to do with their citizenship), and if there has been any change since then it can be noted in the article body. ... discospinster _talk 15:01, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Methychroma (talk) 23:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Image of Freddie Mercury

You need to change a photo of Freddie Mercury with moustache on! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Risk34 (talk • contribs) 03:27, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

why? 94.170.118.34 (talk) 05:08, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

This photo was taken in 1977, NOT IN 1978! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.68.164.77 (talk) 18:21, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Highest notes

The following appears at the end of the References and shows as an un-indexed note, but it and is therefore unknown exactly to what this refers to. I suspect that this is a widowed note to an illustration of sheet music that does not appear to exist on this page. To wit:

^ Notation done in Scientific Pitch, and thus is written one octave lower than what is displayed here.

To what does this displayed here note refer? Also, assuming that this note is at all relevant to the current article should probably link to Scientific pitch notation. Enquire (talk) 21:51, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Related: the text says his highest note was F6-natural but the image to the left indicates that his highest note was a B6-flat. EMSM (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Sexual orientation & 'Criticism' ?

The part of the article quoted below should be removed because it does not reflect the truth that Freddie Mercury's wish was to keep his personal life / sexual orientation private. A "writer for a gay online newspaper" is not relevant to the article, and mis-states Mercury's private life:

• '"A writer for a gay online newspaper felt that audiences may have been overly naive about the matter: "While in many respects he was overtly queer his whole career ("I am as gay as a daffodil, my dear" being one of his most famous quotes), his sexual orientation seemed to pass over the heads of scrutinising audiences and pundits (both gay and straight) for decades".[70] John Marshall of Gay Times expressed the following opinion in 1992: "[Mercury] was a 'scene-queen', not afraid to publicly express his gayness but unwilling to analyse or justify his 'lifestyle'" ...'

I'm not sure if Sexual Orientation should be part of "Criticism and controversy". Some people could read it as indicating that his sexual orientation is a mater of criticism. Even the term controversies (and the fact that the following paragraph is called "other controversies") seems to imply that his sexual orientation is a mater of controversy. Anyway, it's just a little detail I wanted to mention without diminishing the overall correctness of the article. 90.163.19.53 (talk) 17:36, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

I think the controversial aspect of his sexuality was that he never plainly declared it, and the aspect for which he was most criticised (posthumously) was his wihholding of his HIV status until he was clearly dying, and in fact denying it before that. Perhaps changes could be made to make that clearer. Rumiton (talk) 12:21, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm concerned that the section equates bisexuality with homosexuality a bit too much. It's true that most people would identify Mercury as "gay" based on his public persona and the way he died, but as the article demonstrates he was very much bisexual. Frankly, I'd like to see the whole section merged into the personal life section for a bit of balance and to avoid calling it a controversy -- MichiganCharms (talk) 01:50, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Did he attend St. Mary's Bombay ?

He actually studied at St. Peter's school in Panchgani and he had to leave having failed the 10th grade exams (school leaving exams). He was 15 or 16 then. There are records to prove that. But he never went to St, Marys or any other Indian school. He went back to Zanzibar to his parents. So please remove it or validate.--VigarV (talk) 10:24, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

One more thing, Freddie started growing a moustache inspired by Glenn Hughes of the Village People.--VigarV (talk) 10:27, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

2011 milestones, potential FA drive

In a few months it will be the 65th anniversary of Freddie Mercury's birth (September) and the 20th anniversary of his death (November). Would it be realistic to raise the article to FA status by one of these milestones? Might be good to do in Queen's 40th anniversary year. Dl2000 (talk) 03:03, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Also, should the article include a mention of Google's tribute today (Freddie's 65th birth anniversary)?

Quotations inside quotations

From the page (all quotation marks are from the original material, emphasis is mine):

"[Mercury] was a 'scene-queen', not afraid to publicly express his gayness but unwilling to analyse or justify his 'lifestyle' ... It was as if Freddie Mercury was saying to the world, "I am what I am. So what?" And that in itself for some was a statement."

I think that the bolded quote should be surrounded by single quotation marks, not double ones, because it's inside a quote already. It's a very small error so normally I would edit it myself, but the article is semi-protected. Assuming I'm right (I hope I'm not missing some convention here) I'd like it if someone could change it. Thanks. 69.141.67.232 (talk) 19:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

add source

please add this sources.this sources prove his parsi background.

1-John R. Hinnells, Alan Williams(2007) ,Parsis in India and the diaspora (page 261) ,ISBN 0203934504.[1]

2-Manish Telikicherla Chary,India: Nation on the Move: An Overview of India's People, Culture, History (page 31),[2]

3-MICHAEL CAMPBELL, JAMES BRODY ,ROCK AND ROLL: AN INTRODUCTION [3] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.242.220.176 (talk) 09:25, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Ethnic Azeri

English newspaper "The Sun" called Freddie as a "famous ethnic Azeri". --Muradwu (talk) 11:09, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

The Sun is not a reliable source for anything. Wouldn't surprise me if they had got that "fact" from an old, vandalised, version of our article. DuncanHill (talk) 11:24, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

What about BBC ? --Muradwu (talk) 11:53, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Clearly false, it claims his parents were Azerbaijani. They weren't, they were Parsees from India. DuncanHill (talk) 12:55, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Why do you think so? Do you have any reliable source for your words about "they were Parsees from India". His parents firstly were from Zanzibar. "it is notable that his ethnic background is rarely mentioned in biographies..." Brimful of Asia: negotiating ethnicity on the UK music scene By Rehan Hyder.--Muradwu (talk) 13:03, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Have you even bothered to read the references in the article? His parents were British Indians from Gujarat, and described their race as Parsee on his birth certificate. DuncanHill (talk) 13:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Is Adherents.com a reliable source? If so, then you can verify it here. Parsis are Indians of Persian descent. Plus, watch this following documentary which features an interview with Freddie's mother.

* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJudTPf0r4I

Joyson Noel ^{Holla at me!} 13:57, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

What about british "The Sun" and "BBC"? --Muradwu (talk) 14:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Have you even bothered to read the references in the article? His parents were British Indians from Gujarat, and described their race as Parsee on his birth certificate. DuncanHill (talk) 14:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Do you see my question?--Muradwu (talk) 17:04, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

We cannot ignore reliable sources are BBC and The Sun. The relevant information should be reflected in this article. Plus "Parsee" is not a race, so its weird why a birth certificate would say that. Regarding the Parsees, they are Iranian Zoroasters, that can include Azerbaijani zoroasters, as The Sun explains. Anyway I think the best solution is a compromise and mention both. For example add somewhere in the relvant sentence, "possibly ethnic Azerbaijani heritage". Neftchi (talk) 14:21, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

The Sun is not a reliable source, as anyone familiar with it would know. The old BBC article linked to is not credible for these purposes either, it's a blog about football. Bulsara is a Gujarati surname, derived from a town in Gujarat. There are no credible sources for the claim that he was of Azeri origin. Parsees (the name means Persian) are recognised as an ethnic group in India. The name Bulsara is of Gujarati origin. DuncanHill (talk) 14:33, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

The Iranian Zoroastrians do not call themselves Parsis. In India, there are two distinct Zoroastrian groups: the Parsis and the Iranis. There are more reliable sources which confirm that he was a Parsi. As such, the Sun and the BBC can be discounted. Joyson Noel ^{Holla at me!} 14:28, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Furthermore, what you have proposed constitutes original research. A source should mention both. Joyson Noel ^{Holla at me!} 14:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Its not my own research, it was mentioned by the Sun. Anyway I watched the documentary you mentioned. Very interesting, thanks. However it doesnt really answer his background. I think we can agree that his background is kinda disputed. The article should reflect his possible Azerbaijani heritage. I think thats a fair compromise. What do you think? Neftchi (talk) 14:47, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

As there are no reliable sources for any dispute, then no, it would not be proper for the article to suggest there is. DuncanHill (talk) 15:03, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Can you explain on what basis you call the Sun and BBC non-reliable sources? Neftchi (talk) 15:25, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

The Sun is a downmarket tabloid. The BBC item linked to is a trivia piece by a football journalist. If they are the best you can come up with you might as well stop now. DuncanHill (talk) 15:29, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

What about The Economist article on this issue: "People sparred over whether Freddie Mercury, a rock singer, was Iranian, Parsi or Azeri" . And I have to agree with the Economist, its a disputed background and that should be reflected in this page. Neftchi (talk) 16:01, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

The Economist article just says that people on the internet sparred over it. It does not support any serious contention that he was anything other than an Indian Parsee born in Zanzibar. It does not say that any reliable sources say he was Azeri. It's an insignificant mention, and nothing like enough to support any mention in the article. DuncanHill (talk) 16:11, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Use your common sense! Regular people on the internet like you and me are obviously not experts or reliable sources. His ethnicity is mentioned by multiple reliable sources as Parsi. End of story! Joyson Noel ^{Holla at me!} 16:28, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Mercury's birth certificate, scans of which have been published before (I believe there is one in "The Freddie Mercury Collection") lists his ethnicity as Parsee. This official document should be considered the authoritative source, regardless of what Murdoch's illiterate "Sun" writes. User Neftchi's insistence on inclusion of frankly ridiculous claims on the basis of indirect references from sleazy newspapers is starting to annoy me.82.176.209.52 (talk) 11:39, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Just Jealous

Dear Queen Zeppelin Metallica Floyd, Why did you remove my good edit? You didn't even mention it elsewhere! You're just jealous. LOL jokes. Doctorwhovian (talk) 21:59, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Not speaking for Queen Zeppelin Metallica Floyd, but if one had to guess, it would be because it's absurd to list every time somebody apes an influential artist. The Elvis Presley page alone would probably have to be 10,000 lines long by that standard. 71.192.115.15 (talk) 17:56, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Google

I don't think google's doodle on his 65th anniversary is such an important event to mention it in his biography. It should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.151.53.76 (talk) 15:10, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Vocal range graphic and text are inconsistent

The article says "His vocal range extended from bass low F (F2) to soprano high F (F6).[24] He could belt up to tenor high F (F5)." But the accompanying graphic shows a range going up to B♭5, in between these two upper limits. What is this supposed to represent? 116.212.197.129 (talk) 07:08, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Specialists and fans alike are divided as to the precise range, with different high- and low- notes cited on the basis of various (live) recordings. Also, a number of studio notes are disputed, as Queen has admitted to sometimes raising or dropping notes by changing tape-speed (notably on "In The Lap Of The Gods" from Sheer Heart Attack)82.176.209.52 (talk) 11:42, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

The descriptions in this article about his vocal range are hopelessly garbled. Not only does the graphic disagree with the text, but the text doesn't make sense. Aside from the question of what notes Freddie actually sang, F5 is not a "tenor" note by any stretch of the imagination. The fact that sources can be cited for all the nonsensical and mutually contradictory claims only shows how unreliable the sources are. It also points at a flaw in Wikipedia's standard procedure: just because a statement appeared in a book or a Rolling Stone article doesn't make it more valid. Iglew (talk) 08:44, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Iglew: agreed, but what is to be done to fix the article? 82.176.209.52 (talk) 11:51, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

I am a casual reader of Wikipedia, and was struck by the inconsistency between the musical staff graphic and the text. Whatever Mercury's actual vocal range was, it doesn't look good. I agree that F5 is not a tenor note. I am extremely grateful to Wikipedia and its volunteer editors for the amazing service you provide.Eupatorium (talk) 17:16, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Can someone explain? Origin in infobox

The infobox states his origin as London, England but as the child of Parsi parents and born in Zanzibar, not even moving to England until he was 17 years old - how can his origin possibly be London? I can understand Queen's origin being London, but not Freddie's, which is the subject of this page. Or is it a vandalism that was missed? 21st CENTURY GREENSTUFF 17:35, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Mary Austin birthdate

From a few websites on the subject of Mary Austin it seems that she was born in 1951 if anyone wishes to edit this into the article or perhaps discover her full birthday just for clarity — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.148.176.254 (talk) 18:09, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Legacy

At the second annual Asian Awards ceremony that has been held in London on 18th October, 2011 which celebrated achievements in the worlds of music, entertainment, sport and business, Freddie Mercury was posthumously honored, receiving a special prize for his contribution to music. Among the winners was the legendary Indian singer, Asha Bhosle. --Ramprakashpalaparty (talk) 06:14, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

 Done I added to the 'Continued popularity' section. mabdul 18:23, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Instrumentalist

It says, "As a young boy in India...". Freddie was raised in Zanzibar, which is on an archipelago close to the coast of eastern Africa, and is a semi-autonomous part of the country of Tanzania. Zanzibar is in the Indian ocean, but it is not situated "in India". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.92.14.172 (talk) 04:10, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

You're right about Zanzibar, but the phrase you mention refers to the time Freddie spent at boarding school in India. Armadillopteryx^talk 05:14, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

4 octave range?????

Nobody has a four octave range. Celine Dion's biographies tell us she has a 5 or 6 octave range, as if 5 or 6 is just a little thing. Most of the greatest operatic singers have 2 octaves and maybe a little beyond. Pop/rock/whatever/commercial/industrial vocalists are always saying how big their range is, but they are at best an octave and a few notes. Pop singers have one register and do not combine chest, middle, and head registers. The women are all low chest register , and the men usually are all singing very high in their highest register. Pop singers all sing in the same area: a "sexless" range. Men and women sounding similar. And the range is about g below middle c, up to the e an octave above middle c. Rarely any higher or lower. So hyperbole works well to inflate the range. 4 octaves, my left foot. Low C, two ledger lines in the bass clef to two ledger lines above the treble clef? F M didn't sing any of those pitches and no other singer has ever done both. It is so ridiculous that I am amazed anyone would ever believe it, but so many people are musically illiterate now. Most people cannot read music, so they don't know what they are talking about. 68.71.8.57 (talk) 02:10, 6 September 2011 (UTC) Just looked at the article further: It tells us he sang LOW F to High Bb. Nope, not 4 octaves. OK it is 3 and 1/2. That is within reason. Falsetto at the top. and he probably had trouble bridging the gap between his man's voice and the falsetto at the high end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.71.8.57 (talk) 02:20, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

That's not quite right. It's certainly true that in the pop music world ridiculous ranges are claimed, as if having more octaves somehow makes a singer more impressive. Nevertheless, it is incorrect to claim that nobody has a four-octave range. A few extraordinary singers (eg, Mado Robin) have reached four octaves at their extremes. As for opera singers, although it's possible to have a career with only two octaves, a typical professional opera singer is more likely to have two and a half, and three is not so rare. Accomplished falsettists generally have a range exceeding three octaves if you count all registers. It's also incorrect to say that pop singers' ranges are "at best an octave and a few notes". It's not uncommon for a pop singer to have a recorded range of two octaves. (For example, Billy Joel spans A3-G4 -- one step short of two octaves -- in a single song (Piano Man).) That said, the claims about Freddie Mercury's range in this article are silly; see discussion above. Iglew (talk) 09:09, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Whether or not he actually had a four octave range, the picture illustrating the "four octave range" isn't four octaves. It goes from an F to a B-flat--not an F. I don't know how to fix the picture, or I would.

Lazr75 (talk) 18:01, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

"gay as a daffodil"

i wanted to put a , but since he died today there are probably too many douchebag assholes around, vandalizing this article? anyway, he NEVER said "i'm as gay as a daffodil, my dear!". never. not once. this should not be in the article. 77.176.233.155 (talk) 22:16, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

While it is disputed whether he actually said the "gay as a daffodil" quote, he is widely believed to have said that, which this article reflects. While he certainly didn't shout his sexuality from the rooftops, he made no secret of it either. In interviews he simply refused to discuss the matter in detail. Leave it to readers to decide whether they believe he said these exact words or not, but the quote, rightly or wrongly, was often attributed to him, so it is justified to at least make mention of it. 67.177.228.64 (talk) 19:16, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Freddie's born name

Dear friend

I want to call your attention on Freddie's born name (see birth Certificate). It says Famokh, and not Farrokh, as wrongly written. Thanks for checking it out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.235.250.106 (talk) 10:52, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.98.23.103 (talk) 23:53, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Origin

How can you say that he was born in Zanzibar and then a line below: origin-London, England, UK? This is a mistake. Origin means ( http://www.thefreedictionary.com/origin ) "The point at which something comes into existence or from which it derives or is derived." He was born in Zanzibar and that is where "he came to existence". Origin of THE BAND would be in the UK as that is where the band was formed.Mjblackfox (talk) 15:38, 13 January 2012 (UTC) :He came into notable existence in the UK, hence that is why it's his origin. --Nutthida (talk) 22:33, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Made In Heaven

I added a brief description of Queen "posthumous" album Made In Heaven--which featured Mercury's final work--which, like its title implies, is almost like a postscript from beyond the grave--to the "Legacy" section. (No, I don't include that characterization in the article.) Perhaps someone can elaborate on it a little further. I find it strange that the album was mentioned in the Queen article but not Freddie's.RobertGustafson (talk) 08:45, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Wan't Cliff Richard Britain's first Asian rock star?

Cliff Richard is Anglo-Indian, and he was a rock star long before Freddie Mercury. Also, Englebert Humperdinck is Anglo-Indian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.77.148.225 (talk) 04:40, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Wrong date of the pic

The main photo of the article was taken in 1977, and not in 1978. In fact, it's the second time I did this request to change the year, because in 1978, as it's written and locked, his hair were shorter and he didn't wear anymore this black and white cloth. Sources? Yes, of course, New Haven 1977 where you can find the same photo : http://www.queenlive.ca/queen/77-11-16.htm and New Haven 1978 : http://www.queenlive.ca/queen/78-11-07.htm Thanks for the memory of an exceptional artist! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.68.252.149 (talk) 10:48, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Criticism and Controversy section needs changing

I want to raise a discussion about how the "Criticism and Controversy" regarding Freddie Mercury and explain simply why having this section is wrong. It is wrong because anyone, anywhere can raise a criticism of Freddie Mercury. For example person A can say "his singing is no good" and person B can say "it is great." Who is the right one? Does it really belong in the article about Freddie Mercury? Specifically, about the HIV comment and raising awareness about the disease is silly. I mean, that question of "criticism" cannot be proven, it is literally playing a guessing game and saying "if this happened, this would have happened" which can't be proven. Also, on a purely human level it's sad that if its true and people do say this, how they lack for Freddie Mercury as a human being and denies him of any privacy on that level, even if he was public figure. The man literally died because of it, why should he have had to share it with anyone, at all, except for him and his doctors? The answer is that he did not have to share it and that's exactly what he did. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.148.169.38 (talk) 06:52, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Range

It's been cited twice that Mercury had a four octave vocal range. It'd be good to see a musician comment on this and not just the pundits. That's namely half the standard piano keyboard and no one but no one is capable of having a range like that.

I have to agree. Freddie is a real good singer, but the heighest tones at the Queen recordings were sung by Roger Taylor. If you look on YouTube, you’ll find for example this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5vTjdOTMGE), but the examples are wrong as you can prove on piano. An F5 is the F from Mozart’s “Queen of the Night” and the last but one F on a piano keyboard. No man can sing this!—T.Gutm (talk) 02:23, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

Vocal fold nodules

This term seems to be used in a positive sense to describe the quality of Mercury's voice, whereas in fact it refers to a pathology that affects singers. If Mercury had an excellent vocal technique despite his being self-trained, he is not likely to have had nodules. If he had, he would have had to stop singing altogether for some time and/or undergo surgery. Singers to whom this has happened include Grace Slick, Lucinda Williams, and Nathalie Dessay. In the context in which it is used here, this quote seems totally out of place.In addition, its source is not provided.

Lestrad (talk) 08:25, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Made in Heaven album and Lake Geneva statue

How does an album released in November 1995 have a picture of a statue that wasn't unveiled until November 1996? Brian the Editor (talk) 23:35, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

HIV

Freddie was never diagnosed with HIV, when he was diagnosed, it was full blown AIDS, not HIV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.131.74.201 (talk) 00:10, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

AIDS and HIV are different names for the exact same thing. If you do a wiki search for AIDS, it redirects to HIV. Therefore, saying that he was diagnosed with HIV is actually correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.119.145.33 (talk) 02:52, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Actually it redirects to HIV/AIDS (But maybe this was a recent redirect). HIV is the virus, AIDS is the symptom of the Virus, AIDS is a state the immune system is bought down to as a result of the HIV virus. At least I think ^__'^ --Τασουλα (talk) 19:41, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Legacy

Portrayal on stage

He featured prominently in the London 2012 olympic closing ceremony- this should be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.184.247.85 (talk) 01:26, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Early Life

The Early Life section is somewhat confusing on where he lived when. It says he was born in Zanzibar but spent most of his childhood in India. How old was he when he moved to India? Also, out of the blue it says his family had to flee Zanzibar when he was 17. Nowhere in the section is it mentioned that he went back to Zanzibar after moving to India. Can someone with knowledge of his childhood clarify that section? Mantisia (talk) 05:26, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Origin

Why is his "origin" listed in the infobox as London, when the article clearly says that the was born in East Africa? Tad Lincoln (talk) 01:13, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

According to the template's documentation, that field is used for the place where the musician started his or her career, not necessarily the same as the birthplace. Brian the Editor (talk) 02:46, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

List of artists seems inconsistent

The way that the musical artists in the "Importance in AIDS history" section seems inconsistent. Some have their associated band in parenthesis while others don't, regardless of whether the person also has had a solo career or is better-known for the band they were in. The best approach seems like it could be to skip the parenthetical info as people that don't recognize the individual's name can check the linked bio. Also, "...Liza Minnelli (and also U2 via Satellite)" leaves it unclear whether Minnelli played with U2 or if they participated separately; I can't fix it as I don't know the answer. --Xyzzy☥Avatar (talk) 06:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

The Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert had two connections via Satellite. One from Sacramento, CA where U2 performed, and one from Johannesburg, South Africa where Mango Groove peformed their song "Special Star". Liza Minelli had nothing to do with either connections - she was there on Wembley Stadium where she started We Are The Champions, to be joined by every other artist from the concert towards the end of the song. - 94.140.73.150 (talk) 13:30, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

Genre

Isn't it better to just stick with "Rock" in the infobox? I thought that was common practice, rather than listing sub-divisions of the genre. 86.4.242.105 (talk) 23:16, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

I haven't noticed whats going on in this particular article but, yes the main genre(s) are usually listed in the infobox and subs would be worked in via prose. Mlpearc (powwow) 23:43, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Range

In the last archive there is some discussion of how the section on Freddie's vocal range is inconsistent and inaccurate. It occurs to me today that that graphic could be the vocal range of Queen over all. The soprano high Bb5 is indeed the top note Roger Taylor sings in Bohemian Rhapsody. The bass F2 seems likely as a lowest note any of them sing (Brian, probably) anywhere in the canon. I'd estimate that Freddie's range on Queen recordings is about A2 to D5, ie, two and a half octaves. Iglew (talk) 03:45, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

PLEASE BETTER PHOTO!

Will you please show some respect for this GREAT, GREAT MAN! And get a photo where the microphone is not in his face... PLEASE, please, PLEASE Get a better photo... Thank-you! (120.149.119.245 (talk) 03:05, 8 December 2012 (UTC))

Factual Error Re: Kensington Market clothing stall

I just registered, and this article is semi-protected, so I can't correct it. But Freddie Mercury opened the clothing stall in Kensington Market with bandmate Roger Taylor, not with his girlfriend Mary Austin. This is a really well-known fact of Queen lore, so I'm amazed to find that error here on Wikipedia. Mary was a manageress at Biba when she and Freddy met, another very well-known fact.

Both of these facts can be found all over the place, online and in books about the band, or the individuals. They are both mentioned in , which I have on my Kindle. It has no page numbers, but the Kensington Market mention is found at location 1640, about halfway through the book.The mention of Mary's job can be found at Location 1685, just a little further on in the book. But, again, they can be found almost anywhere.

I hope someone will correct these items soon, because they are really glaring errors.

This is my first time doing anything on Wikipedia besides reading articles, so I apologize in advance if I have made any errors in this process.

Rlynnt (talk) 23:05, 20 December 2012 (UTC)Rlynnt 12/20/2012

I ask that under genres on overview, add Opera because of his collaboration with Montserrat Caballe Please change x to y i am new to wikipedia editing by the way Weibzac15 (talk) 17:56, 21 December 2012 (UTC)weibzac15

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 18:48, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Guitarist...seriously?

Vocalist & pianist, obviously... but the "instruments" section in the infobox is surely for instruments that he was noted for playing. Anyone who has seen his hamfisted efforts to strum though the intro to "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" would know that Fred, for all his unique talents, was NOT a notable guitarist. At least they had the decency to fade his guitar out after a couple of squeaky bars and fade Brian's up! I suggest that Guitar should be deleted from the infobox. As I'm not an active editor of this page I'll leave others to decide. Thegraciousfew (talk) 09:35, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

He often played guitar live, both acoustic and electric. Not the greatest player, but arguably notable. See as one example.

Edit request on 21 February 2013

ok i don't want to change anything, i just want to put the wording;"he was awesome" at the end of his legacy column. Kiransmooth123 (talk) 23:00, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Not done: Come back when you have something constructive to contribute. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 00:24, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Britain's "First Asian Rock Star" - Debatable?

The ability to accept the claim depends on how one defines "rock" music and Asian. As this article later notes he was British citizen from birth, then may not Cliff Richard (India-born and Indian-blooded British citizen), with earlier start to professional singing career, have first claim? (Ironic Mercury was a boyhood fan of Cliff.) Deserves examination.Cloptonson (talk) 22:57, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Kinship with Zubin Mehta

ZM is listed vaguely as a "relative" in the See Also list, but no reference to Mercury can be found in his own wiki biography. Illustration needed - can someone confirm he is related and how?Cloptonson (talk) 23:14, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Actual quote is: "IT'S OFFICIAL! FREDDIE IS SERIOUSLY ILL" ... see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CA4sIr49xI (0:53 mark)

Actual quote is: "IT'S OFFICIAL! FREDDIE IS SERIOUSLY ILL" ... see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CA4sIr49xI (0:53 mark)

In the current article, quote is incorrect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.226.165.37 (talk) 01:05, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Eric Carr

Eric Carr, KISS drummer died at the same day, it could be noticed somewhere here. 83.7.129.229 (talk) 13:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Adding the death of an unrelated subject doesn't meet WP:BLP. Cheers FlatOut 10:17, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 June 2013

As a songwriter, Mercury composed many hits for Queen, including "Bohemian Rhapsody", "Killer Queen", "Somebody to Love", "Don't Stop Me Now", "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" and "We Are the Champions".

According to the AP Stylebook the list should be handled with italicized song titles vs. using quotation marks, please change to:

As a songwriter, Mercury composed many hits for Queen, including Bohemian Rhapsody, Killer Queen, Somebody to Love, Don't Stop Me Now, Crazy Little Thing Called Love and We Are the Champions.

Thord (talk) 14:29, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Not done. MOS:QUOTEMARKS#Names and titles. I don't know what the AP Stylebook says...but the MOS here says to use quotation marks for song titles. --Onorem (talk) 15:08, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 July 2013

Please change 'contracted AIDS' to 'contracted HIV', at the end of the following sentence, found under section 3.3 'Personality': In 1987, Mercury celebrated his 41st birthday at the Pikes Hotel, Ibiza, several months after discovering that he had contracted AIDS.

I am requesting this change because HIV is the virus that a person contracts; AIDS is the disease that results from the virus. That is, a person contracts the virus, not the disease.

Thanks! 24.57.7.65 (talk) 01:55, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

 Done Flat Out let's discuss it 02:02, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Category

Because Freddie Mercury pretty much was gay and had left his girlfriend for his lover, until his death, if that is the right story, would it be appropriate to also list him in the category, in addition to Bisexual musicians... Natural (talk) 02:42, 9 February 2013 (UTC)Natural

Was his relationship with Mary Austin sexual? Didn't he have scores of male lovers? Surely Freddie was simply... gay. If this is really important, I think that should be the category. Maybe people should worry more about extending the article with interesting factual content than worrying about genres, categories etc! Thegraciousfew (talk) 09:40, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Freddie and Mary Austin had a sexual relationship. FlatOut 10:20, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Freddie was bisexual. He had many male and female lovers. Do not try to shoehorn him into a single group. Erobinson55 (talk) 06:02, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Duets with Michael Jackson?

Hi there, the article still states that FM's duets with Michael Jackson were to be released in 2012. Does anyone have an update on this? Were the duets released, and if not was there any follow-up we could mention? Thanks for your help on this, --Georgepauljohnringo (talk) 17:15, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Stage name?

Is Freddie Mercury just his stage name or did he formally change his name? --Oddeivind (talk) 17:38, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Asian rock star?

Regarding this sentence from the intro: "He has been referred to as "Britain's first Asian rock star"." Is this actually notable enough for inclusion in the article? Putting aside the jarring effect "British Asian" has outside of the UK where in the rest of the world "Asian" refers to people of East Asian background, did Mercury ever actually refer to himself as "Asian"? Did he checkmark the "Asian" or "British Asian" or "Other Asian" box on his UK census forms (if he ever filled them out)? It seems like a very POV statement, possibly even racist since based on sources Mercury did not identify with the term and essentially considered himself as simply "British." I would argue that a human being has the right to identify and label themselves however they want, even when the government or media try to impose such labels. So, IMHO if Mercury didn't apply that label to himself, that sentence should be taken out, or at least out of the intro and placed into a section where the appropriate context can be given, since it is only the UK that has such eccentric and colonialist ethnic labeling. Laval (talk) 00:38, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I wholeheartedly agree. One who reads the introduction to this article is given the impression that Mercury endorsed and celebrated the "Asian" label, when in fact, nothing could be further from the truth. That is not to say that he denied or was ashamed of his heritage, he just was not fond of labeling in general; for evidence see his refusal to be drawn on categorizing something as fundamental as his sexuality, regardless of how openly flamboyant he may have appeared. So, it is jarring indeed to be confronted with an introduction that is heavily loaded with labels of nationality, ethnicity, religion ad nauseam, together with ethnic spellings of his real name, that for the better part of his life he never used. One gets the distinct feeling that Asians (or British Asians?) want to claim Freddie as their own, when in reality he is inseparable from the whole of British culture. I do hate this incessant desire to compartmentalize everything. When its tentacles reach such enigmatiucal icons as Freddie Mercury, enough is enough, surely? Bennycat (talk) 03:45, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

it is ridiculous and needs removing, I'll do it, talk about success having many fathers! Africa is 'Asian? What a joke. I have noticed the same statement cited from 'Time Asia' littered throughout the article even used nastily when writing Mercury 'improved' the 'colonizers' music, you can tell that the Chinese state machine has got their hooks into Hong Kongs media! it is obvious that one or more people are intent on stripping Mercury of his nationality and using him ideologically in an attack on Britain, the country he loved so much. The man went to a British school in a British country and loved British music, I do wish people wouldn't keep grabbing success stories as their own, it seems to be on on-going problem on Wikipedia. Twobells (talk) 07:24, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Badly written phrase in Personality section

"This was famously mentioned in Kurt Cobain's suicide note, Cobain writing of how he both admired and envied Mercury's ability to be so strongly affected by his audience before a performance."

Can someone please fix this phrase?

141.70.26.193 (talk) 20:08, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

    I really don't think that a reference to Curt Cobain's suicide note should be anywhere in the article. They didn't know each other, at all. Erobinson55 21:49, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

I have cleaned the sentence up, let me know if you want it gone. Twobells (talk) 08:31, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Voice

I personally think that he could "only" use 3 octaves (from F3 to F6), at the most (I sing a little myself). Moreover, this terrible picture, which is showing 3.5 octaves, with tones absolutely impossible for human vocals chords (too low), should be removed. Regards, Maciek Dennis lance (talk) 14:56, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

The range of a singing voice using reference to octaves is nonsense and hyperbole. It really annoys me. In actuality most singing voices have a similar range in terms of the limits of the useful part of the voice. No doubt Freddie had an extraordinary "range" in terms of high and low notes, dynamics and expression, but to express this in terms of "octaves" cheapens this otherwise quality article. If you think that having a range of 3 or 4 or even 5 octave range is important or equates to quality, you don't know about singing, or what the term "octave" actually means. Come on, professional singers and singing teachers, back me up here. Grantwilliamdoyle (talk) 01:24, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Bi-sexual???

It is well known that Mercury was gay, niot bi. He was a closeted homosexual as a youth — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.239.7.5 (talk) 11:07, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that. If you can provide a reliable source that says that, then it would help us out greatly. DonQuixote (talk) 14:37, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

He had relationships with both men and women (not just in his youth), as detailed in the relationships section. Wouldn't that make him bi? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.148.54 (talk) 21:01, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

He clearly had relationships with both men and women. It's not like he was faking being devoted to Mary Austin, considering the quote in the relationships section (which, by the way, leaves out the last sentence of that quote: "I couldn't fall in love with a man the same way as I have with Mary."). That seems more bisexual than gay. SMARTALIENQT (talk) 21:20, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Citizenship

According to this article, Mercury was a British citizen at birth (I'm guessing it had something to do with his father's job in the British Colonial Office). However, does anyone know whether or not he held Indian citizenship? Due to his parents' Indian origins and the fact that he spent a good deal of his childhood in India, I think there's a good chance he was also an Indian citizen.--RM (Be my friend) 07:40, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Freddie Mercury Prateado

Freddie Mercury Prateado is a highly popular parody character from Brazil. There should be mention of that, regarding cultural influence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.7.49 (talk) 19:12, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Lyricist???

Since when has Freddie been "best known as the lead vocalist and <lyricist> of the rock band Queen"? Very weird description. He was not the only lyricist in Queen and he wasn't particularly famous for his lyrics either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.33.47.27 (talk) 12:04, 31 October 2012‎

• Agree. Check the song credits for every Queen album up until "Magic" (the "making of" video of which depicts them collaborating on the lyrics to the song One Vision) - each song has ONE composer, even the John Deacon compositions. All 4 members independently wrote entire songs, including Mercury. There is not one song on which he is credited as "lyricist" other than the songs for which he also wrote the music. This really should be changed. Even "main songwriter" would not be accurate, as May has nearly as many songs per album as Mercury, nor did Mercury have the most "hits", nor did he have the biggest hit (that would be Deacon's Another One Bites the Dust), although he might have claim to their most celebrated songs, including Bohemian Rhapsody, We Are the Champions and Killer Queen, however, this may also be a debatable point. However, "lyricist" is totally inaccurate, a seeming stereotype that the main lead vocalist usually is the band's lyricist, ala Robert Plant or Morrisey. And it should be noted both May and Taylor sang lead on many Queen songs, although not as many as Mercury and he usually sang songs they wrote which actually became hits instead songs written by the others which were merely album filler (Some Day One Day) or B-sides (I'm in Love With My Car), for instance, he was called to sing lead vocals songs which _did_ become hits as on the Taylor-penned Radio Gaga and the May written Tie Your Mother Down or We Will Rock You as well as the aforementioned Deacon-written hit Another One Bites the Dust as well as You're My Best Friend. Additionally, Mercury sometimes sang songs live (39 by May) which were originally sung by their composers on the record, pretty much establishing him as "main" lead vocalist as well as the indisputable "frontman" of Queen. In conclusion, I propose:

Freddie Mercury (born Farrokh Bulsara; Gujarati: Pharōkh Balsārā‌; 5 September 1946 – 24 November 1991)[1][2] was a British singer-songwriter and producer, best known as the main lead vocalist, frontman and composer of some of the most notable hits of the rock band Queen. 108.33.46.98 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 20:36, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Teeth

According to interview seen in the British documentary film Killer Queen broadcast in 2002 on channel 4, Freddie had 4 more teeth than usual, which in part explains his overbite. He was clearly sensitive about them, covering his mouth anytime he laughed out loud. It is suggested that he never had extra teeth removed because he was understandably concerned that would affect the quality of his singing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.113.76.195 (talk) 23:36, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

The picture!!

There's a pic of a naked woman instead of Freddie's one since 2 weeks!! Please edit, this is very offensive — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.45.35.26 (talk) 22:42, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

This is a problem at Commons and the admins there have been notified.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 23:02, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2014

category: Parsi people Hurvashtahumvata888 (talk) 13:14, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

He is in category British people of Parsi descent right now. Dd he identify as being Parsi for most of his life? Stickee (talk) 13:52, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 16:18, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2014

Can you add bass guitar to instruments since Freddie Mercury played bass in the song Staying Power as it says here http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Staying_Power#Personnel, here http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Hot_Space#.22Staying_Power.22 and here http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Hot_Space#Personnel

201.143.244.25 (talk) 03:09, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

•  Not done. As explained to you here in a warning template, per Template:Infobox_musical_artist#instrument, the instruments listed in the infobox should be limited to only those that the artist is primarily known for using. That parameter is not supposed to be an exhaustive list of every instrument ever played. Binksternet (talk) 05:47, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Kenny Everett

Why is there nothing about Freddie and Kenny relationship on this page? There was even a TV programme about it; http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/information/a7520/when-freddie-mercury-met-kenny-everett.html#~oABrKHu1h26LBo Yet nothing on here Why? --Crazyseiko (talk) 23:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

LGBT is written as GLBT. I was not able to correct it, so I'd like to ask the admin to do so. Appreciate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omniavincitamor (talk • contribs) 13:18, 2 September 2014 (UTC) Does anyone have any proper ref about the Friendship with Kenny Everett, before I start looking up books etc.--Crazyseiko (talk) 12:44, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I need other people to explain: WHY cant we use the ref from the TV show? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

Film, TV, or video recordings[edit] Citations for films, TV episodes, or video recordings typically include: name of the director name of the producer, if relevant title of the film or TV series in italics: - When Freddie Mercury Met Kenny Everett name of the studio : - Blackwatch Productions year of release  : - Sunday, 2nd June 2002 medium (for example: film, videocassette, DVD) = TV approximate time at which event or point of interest occurs, where appropri

• http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f
• http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Living+on+the+edge%3B+When+Freddie+Mercury+Met+Kenny+Everett+Ch4,...-a086533343
• http://www.aveleyman.com/TVEpisode.aspx?FilmID=1773&Episode=20020602
• http://www.blackwatchmedia.co.uk/when-kenny-everett-met-freddie-mercury/

Im having real trouble getting this in book form, It might explain why the TV Doc was made in the first place.... Freddie Auto bio is rather poor about the subject and seems to whitewash alot!

Freddie Mercury and Kenny Everett became close friends over the years they knew each other. First meeting in 1974,http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f Kenny had invited Freddie on to his breakfast show on Capital FM; the pair hit it off instantly. During the 1970s, their friendship became closer, with Everett becoming advisor and mentor to Mercury - and Mercury as Everett's confidante, helping Kenny to accept his sexuality. Throughout the early-mid 80s, the pair continued to explore their homosexuality - in addition to drugs - and while the pair were never lovers, they did experience London night life on a regular basis together. During this time Kenny and Freddie became involved with Nicolai Grishanovitch and a Spanish waiter named Pepe Flores. By 1985, the pair had also fallen out over a disagreement on their using and sharing of drugs. During 1988, Audrey Lee "Lady Lee" Middleton completed her autobiography, with the foreword from Kenny. Unusually, shortly after its publication and newspaper serialisation, Kenny denounced the book for outing him. The fallout resulted in the pair only speaking via lawyer, with their friends - including Freddie - choosing to support Lee. source]] Kenny and Freddie started talking again in 1989, with their failing health. Their closeness was not on the same level as years previous, but they were able to reconcile their differences.

What are we going to do about this, IT will have to get put back in,. --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

The entire section needs to be referenced, point by point. Go to google books, search for Everett and Freddie Mercury. You dont need to use several sources, just the one published source and then refer to a specific page in the book that verifies each point. I'd also mention Everett being a huge factor in the band getting significant airplay as it was he who played Boh Rhapsody constantly.--Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 00:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Here the issues, FM auto has little about Kenny it, and also pretty much whitewashes his involvement with the song. Said book is pretty poor. Goolge books also has not been helpful! I was also hoping someone else would help but that seems alas a no.

References

Kenny Everett

Why is there nothing about Freddie and Kenny relationship on this page? There was even a TV programme about it; http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/information/a7520/when-freddie-mercury-met-kenny-everett.html#~oABrKHu1h26LBo Yet nothing on here Why? --Crazyseiko (talk) 23:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

LGBT is written as GLBT. I was not able to correct it, so I'd like to ask the admin to do so. Appreciate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omniavincitamor (talk • contribs) 13:18, 2 September 2014 (UTC) Does anyone have any proper ref about the Friendship with Kenny Everett, before I start looking up books etc.--Crazyseiko (talk) 12:44, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I need other people to explain: WHY cant we use the ref from the TV show? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

Film, TV, or video recordings[edit] Citations for films, TV episodes, or video recordings typically include: name of the director name of the producer, if relevant title of the film or TV series in italics: - When Freddie Mercury Met Kenny Everett name of the studio : - Blackwatch Productions year of release  : - Sunday, 2nd June 2002 medium (for example: film, videocassette, DVD) = TV approximate time at which event or point of interest occurs, where appropri

• http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f
• http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Living+on+the+edge%3B+When+Freddie+Mercury+Met+Kenny+Everett+Ch4,...-a086533343
• http://www.aveleyman.com/TVEpisode.aspx?FilmID=1773&Episode=20020602
• http://www.blackwatchmedia.co.uk/when-kenny-everett-met-freddie-mercury/

Im having real trouble getting this in book form, It might explain why the TV Doc was made in the first place.... Freddie Auto bio is rather poor about the subject and seems to whitewash alot!

Freddie Mercury and Kenny Everett became close friends over the years they knew each other. First meeting in 1974,http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f Kenny had invited Freddie on to his breakfast show on Capital FM; the pair hit it off instantly. During the 1970s, their friendship became closer, with Everett becoming advisor and mentor to Mercury - and Mercury as Everett's confidante, helping Kenny to accept his sexuality. Throughout the early-mid 80s, the pair continued to explore their homosexuality - in addition to drugs - and while the pair were never lovers, they did experience London night life on a regular basis together. During this time Kenny and Freddie became involved with Nicolai Grishanovitch and a Spanish waiter named Pepe Flores. By 1985, the pair had also fallen out over a disagreement on their using and sharing of drugs. During 1988, Audrey Lee "Lady Lee" Middleton completed her autobiography, with the foreword from Kenny. Unusually, shortly after its publication and newspaper serialisation, Kenny denounced the book for outing him. The fallout resulted in the pair only speaking via lawyer, with their friends - including Freddie - choosing to support Lee. source]] Kenny and Freddie started talking again in 1989, with their failing health. Their closeness was not on the same level as years previous, but they were able to reconcile their differences.

What are we going to do about this, IT will have to get put back in,. --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

The entire section needs to be referenced, point by point. Go to google books, search for Everett and Freddie Mercury. You dont need to use several sources, just the one published source and then refer to a specific page in the book that verifies each point. I'd also mention Everett being a huge factor in the band getting significant airplay as it was he who played Boh Rhapsody constantly.--Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 00:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Here the issues, FM auto has little about Kenny it, and also pretty much whitewashes his involvement with the song. Said book is pretty poor. Goolge books also has not been helpful! I was also hoping someone else would help but that seems alas a no.

References

Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2015

Is just a little detail, add an extra "s" on keyboard on the instruments section, since Freddie was never seen playing keyboard live in any Queen concert, but he did took care of playing various keyboards instruments on the studio sessions.http://www.queenconcerts.com/inc/instruments/1980_game/1981_keyboards.jpg this image shows him during the piano recordings along with an electronic keyboard to he used to add various effects on the music.

The change I ask is simple just change "keyboard" to "keyboards".

I really hope you can answr to this request, thank you 201.143.54.141 (talk) 22:17, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 22:50, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  06:29, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Sagrada Familia

Would it be possible to modify the description of the cake in Ibiza (Personality section) to remove the word "Cathedral"? The Sagrada Familia is not a cathedral, that is, it is not the church where a bishop is based. There are several towns in Spain which happen to have two cathedrals (Vitoria/Gasteiz and Leon come to mind), but Barcelona is not one of them.

See here for an explanation of the nature of the Sagrada Familia as an Expiatory Church: http://www.sagradafamilia.cat/sf-eng/docs_instit/historia.php

And here for Barcelona's actual Cathedral: http://www.catedralbcn.org/index.php?lang=en

Thank you,

193.113.135.68 (talk) 14:30, 3 February 2015 (UTC)A parishioner of the Sagrada Familia Expiatory Temple. February 3rd, 2015.

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2015

Request removal of the first comma in "In 1969 he joined the Liverpool based band, Ibex, later renamed Wreckage" + insertion of hyphen between "Liverpool" and "based".

This kind of comma misuse is rife in Wikipedia. Editors should be sent on a training course!

109.157.11.144 (talk) 13:46, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you. Δρ.Κ. ^{λόγοςπράξις} 14:01, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Kenny Everett

Why is there nothing about Freddie and Kenny relationship on this page? There was even a TV programme about it; http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/information/a7520/when-freddie-mercury-met-kenny-everett.html#~oABrKHu1h26LBo Yet nothing on here Why? --Crazyseiko (talk) 23:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

LGBT is written as GLBT. I was not able to correct it, so I'd like to ask the admin to do so. Appreciate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omniavincitamor (talk • contribs) 13:18, 2 September 2014 (UTC) Does anyone have any proper ref about the Friendship with Kenny Everett, before I start looking up books etc.--Crazyseiko (talk) 12:44, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I need other people to explain: WHY cant we use the ref from the TV show? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

Film, TV, or video recordings[edit] Citations for films, TV episodes, or video recordings typically include: name of the director name of the producer, if relevant title of the film or TV series in italics: - When Freddie Mercury Met Kenny Everett name of the studio : - Blackwatch Productions year of release  : - Sunday, 2nd June 2002 medium (for example: film, videocassette, DVD) = TV approximate time at which event or point of interest occurs, where appropri

• http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f
• http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Living+on+the+edge%3B+When+Freddie+Mercury+Met+Kenny+Everett+Ch4,...-a086533343
• http://www.aveleyman.com/TVEpisode.aspx?FilmID=1773&Episode=20020602
• http://www.blackwatchmedia.co.uk/when-kenny-everett-met-freddie-mercury/

Im having real trouble getting this in book form, It might explain why the TV Doc was made in the first place.... Freddie Auto bio is rather poor about the subject and seems to whitewash alot!

Freddie Mercury and Kenny Everett became close friends over the years they knew each other. First meeting in 1974,http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f Kenny had invited Freddie on to his breakfast show on Capital FM; the pair hit it off instantly. During the 1970s, their friendship became closer, with Everett becoming advisor and mentor to Mercury - and Mercury as Everett's confidante, helping Kenny to accept his sexuality. Throughout the early-mid 80s, the pair continued to explore their homosexuality - in addition to drugs - and while the pair were never lovers, they did experience London night life on a regular basis together. During this time Kenny and Freddie became involved with Nicolai Grishanovitch and a Spanish waiter named Pepe Flores. By 1985, the pair had also fallen out over a disagreement on their using and sharing of drugs. During 1988, Audrey Lee "Lady Lee" Middleton completed her autobiography, with the foreword from Kenny. Unusually, shortly after its publication and newspaper serialisation, Kenny denounced the book for outing him. The fallout resulted in the pair only speaking via lawyer, with their friends - including Freddie - choosing to support Lee. source]] Kenny and Freddie started talking again in 1989, with their failing health. Their closeness was not on the same level as years previous, but they were able to reconcile their differences.

What are we going to do about this, IT will have to get put back in,. --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

The entire section needs to be referenced, point by point. Go to google books, search for Everett and Freddie Mercury. You dont need to use several sources, just the one published source and then refer to a specific page in the book that verifies each point. I'd also mention Everett being a huge factor in the band getting significant airplay as it was he who played Boh Rhapsody constantly.--Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 00:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Here the issues, FM auto has little about Kenny it, and also pretty much whitewashes his involvement with the song. Said book is pretty poor. Goolge books also has not been helpful! I was also hoping someone else would help but that seems alas a no.

Alas because the book is out of print and the other one is not easy to get it not been able to resolve--Crazyseiko (talk) 16:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC) this.

References

Instrumentalist section synthesis conflict.

Regarding: "Although he wrote many lines for the guitar, Mercury possessed only rudimentary skills on the instrument. Songs like "Ogre Battle" and "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" were composed on the guitar; the latter featured Mercury playing acoustic guitar both onstage and in the studio.[49]"

If Mercury composed on the guitar and played both in the studio and live, how could he possess only "rudimentary skills"? The referenced item states: "I'm somewhat limited by the number of chords I know. I'm really just learning, but I hope to play more guitar in the future". What's overlooked is that the item is dated "Sept 1980". So, the most you can say is that the man felt that he was still learning in 1980, not that he was generally unskilled through his career or that he was perceived by others as unskilled. Synthesis. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 16:40, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2015

Incorrect use of the word English, you have to be Anglo to be considered English, not even the Celtic natives of neighbouring Wales are English. You have clearly confused British and English (i.e. it is evident you're not from the UK). More correct would be British-Indian considering his ethnicity but British would be at least true, English implies an ethnicity.

Is the confusion possibly an incorrect American use of the word English? (something which doesn't seem to be common to England or Western Europe?)

86.24.39.4 (talk) 15:05, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks for spotting that, I have restored British as it is more correct. DuncanHill (talk) 15:19, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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Kenny Everett

Why is there nothing about Freddie and Kenny relationship on this page? There was even a TV programme about it; http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/information/a7520/when-freddie-mercury-met-kenny-everett.html#~oABrKHu1h26LBo Yet nothing on here Why? --Crazyseiko (talk) 23:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

LGBT is written as GLBT. I was not able to correct it, so I'd like to ask the admin to do so. Appreciate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omniavincitamor (talk • contribs) 13:18, 2 September 2014 (UTC) Does anyone have any proper ref about the Friendship with Kenny Everett, before I start looking up books etc.--Crazyseiko (talk) 12:44, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I need other people to explain: WHY cant we use the ref from the TV show? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

Film, TV, or video recordings[edit] Citations for films, TV episodes, or video recordings typically include: name of the director name of the producer, if relevant title of the film or TV series in italics: - When Freddie Mercury Met Kenny Everett name of the studio : - Blackwatch Productions year of release  : - Sunday, 2nd June 2002 medium (for example: film, videocassette, DVD) = TV approximate time at which event or point of interest occurs, where appropri

• http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f
• http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Living+on+the+edge%3B+When+Freddie+Mercury+Met+Kenny+Everett+Ch4,...-a086533343
• http://www.aveleyman.com/TVEpisode.aspx?FilmID=1773&Episode=20020602
• http://www.blackwatchmedia.co.uk/when-kenny-everett-met-freddie-mercury/

Im having real trouble getting this in book form, It might explain why the TV Doc was made in the first place.... Freddie Auto bio is rather poor about the subject and seems to whitewash alot!

Freddie Mercury and Kenny Everett became close friends over the years they knew each other. First meeting in 1974,http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f Kenny had invited Freddie on to his breakfast show on Capital FM; the pair hit it off instantly. During the 1970s, their friendship became closer, with Everett becoming advisor and mentor to Mercury - and Mercury as Everett's confidante, helping Kenny to accept his sexuality. Throughout the early-mid 80s, the pair continued to explore their homosexuality - in addition to drugs - and while the pair were never lovers, they did experience London night life on a regular basis together. During this time Kenny and Freddie became involved with Nicolai Grishanovitch and a Spanish waiter named Pepe Flores. By 1985, the pair had also fallen out over a disagreement on their using and sharing of drugs. During 1988, Audrey Lee "Lady Lee" Middleton completed her autobiography, with the foreword from Kenny. Unusually, shortly after its publication and newspaper serialisation, Kenny denounced the book for outing him. The fallout resulted in the pair only speaking via lawyer, with their friends - including Freddie - choosing to support Lee. source]] Kenny and Freddie started talking again in 1989, with their failing health. Their closeness was not on the same level as years previous, but they were able to reconcile their differences.

What are we going to do about this, IT will have to get put back in,. --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

The entire section needs to be referenced, point by point. Go to google books, search for Everett and Freddie Mercury. You dont need to use several sources, just the one published source and then refer to a specific page in the book that verifies each point. I'd also mention Everett being a huge factor in the band getting significant airplay as it was he who played Boh Rhapsody constantly.--Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 00:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Here the issues, FM auto has little about Kenny it, and also pretty much whitewashes his involvement with the song. Said book is pretty poor. Goolge books also has not been helpful! I was also hoping someone else would help but that seems alas a no.

Alas because the book is out of print and the other one is not easy to get it not been able to resolve--Crazyseiko (talk) 16:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC) this.

There must be some where to resolve this issue? --Crazyseiko (talk) 10:32, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2015

British-Indian instead of British

183.83.51.149 (talk) 14:44, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

 Not done This has been discussed several times before - try typing "Indian" into the Archive search box above.
Others have suggested Parsi, Asian, or even African as he was born in Zanzibar.
The article explains his parentage, but AFAIK Mercury self-identified as English - so that is what we describe him as, unless you can find reliable sources that he self-identified as anything else.
As with many subjects: - race/ethnicity, caste, religion, gender etc. Wikipedia uses what the subject of the article self-describes themselves, not who their parents were, or what their birth certificate says. - Arjayay (talk) 18:14, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps the IP was talking about citizenship? Even so, there's no evidence he had Indian citizenship. He was born in a British-controlled territory so he would have British citizenship but that's all that can be found in reliable sources. He is of Indian descent but is not necessarily Indian in terms of legal nationality. ... discospinster _talk 19:45, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what people self-identify as. Tomorrow a Chinese person will say he identifies as Caucasian. Race can't be self-identified. As far as the introduction is concerned, calling him British is fine as he seems to be a British national by citizenship. He identity though is Parsi or formerly Persian. He may not be called Indian but he must have been an Indian national at birth depending upon what citizenship rules were there in the former British colony. The current status seems ok to me. 220.240.243.117 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 11:49, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Where has he self identified as English? Also it would have been difficult for him to have emphasised his Indian heritage in the UK due to racism towards the Indian community at that time, not highlighting it isn't the same as changing race. And there is also a (not so subtle) difference between British and English, English people are more of a race (unless you want to use the strict, original faux-scientific use of the word race rather than the common useage), British is the nationality. More correct would be British-Indian but British would have been correct if he had a British passport (which as a Parsi in Zanzibar, he would have done). Calling him English however is just incorrect.

As a personal view I find it offensive that he's going to be claimed as English and not count as Indian because he was so popular when that never happens normally. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.24.39.4 (talk) 14:59, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that's right. He is definitely not English. His ethnicity is Parsi, and Parsis have migrated to India some 1000 years before his time so he becomes an Indian by birth. It doesn't matter who ruled India at that time and who gave which passports, or if India didn't exist as a nation state at that time. Technically the right term would be that he is now a British citizen of Indian origin belonging to the Zorastrian ancestry. That makes it pretty clear. 220.240.243.117 (talk) 23:55, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Citizenship

Mercury was not "A British citizen at birth". There was no such thing as British citizenship in 1946. He was a British subject.Royalcourtier (talk) 20:44, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2015

His behavior suggests that he was bisexual. The claims that he was gay are contrary to the number of relationships he had with women. Hopper250 (talk) 23:50, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 03:26, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

The article lists him as Bisexual. Andrea Carter (at your service | my good deeds) 11:24, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Blindness

Okay this is the second categorization discussion I've gotten into today. He was blind due to AIDS-related illnesses at death and as far as I know, he died a musician. He most certainly died a person from England (and India/Zanzibar). Andrea Carter (at your service | my good deeds) 09:56, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

The blind musicians category is for those who were blind as performers, not someone who happened to have gone blind at the end of his life. As for being English, he wasn't necessarily English, he lived in England but he wasn't born/raised there. He also lived in Switzerland, but that's not an appropriate category either. ... discospinster _talk 13:22, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Interesting. Maybe he shouldn't added to the blind musicians category. As per consensus, he is English. Andrea Carter (at your service | my good deeds) 16:02, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Yup. I've been having a look at the two categories concerned and in both cases they seem to be people who were known and acknowledged as blind for a significant part,perhaps all, of their lives. I don't think Freddie Mercury fits in with most of those already categorized in that way - it's just not a significant part of who he was. The Englishness has been discussed endlessly, and is not a separate problem here where we are discussing blindness. Summary: I wouldn't add him to either category. Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 08:30, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

George III of the United Kingdom is listed as deafblind despite the fact that was only at the end of his life. However, George III's deafblindness was a widely publicized aspect of his life. Andrea Carter (at your service | my good deeds) 11:23, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Funnily enough I'd noticed George while looking through the categories. To me even he seemed maybe a bit borderline (it's certainly not the first or even the second thing I think of when I think about him) but I guess that you are right if it was well-known and can be considered, in some broad sense, part of who he was. Thank you for the civilized debate. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 12:12, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome. :) Andrea Carter (at your service | my good deeds) 12:20, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 September 2015

I like to add in the heading Tributes as was added to other queen members including : Damselfly species

A new species of the genus Heteragrion (Odonata : Zygoptera) from Brazil was named in honor of him, with the etymology: "I name this species after Freddie Mercury, artistic name of Farrokh Bulsara (1946–1991), superb and gifted musician and songwriter whose wonderful voice and talent still entertain millions of people around the world."

and move the Frog genus heading to this heading also.

Odonata 1970 (talk) 15:15, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Partly done: I've moved the paragraph about the frog genus under the "Tributes" section. However, please provide reliable sources to support the new information about the Damselfly. Mz7 (talk) 20:16, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 October 2015

Please add that Crazy Little Thing Called Love was written in a Elvis like style and was written as a tribute to Elvis. Alexschaller (talk) 08:13, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

- This is already mentioned in the article Crazy Little Thing Called Love, where it belongs, but this article is about Freddie Mercury.
IMHO such detail about every song would make the article unwieldy. Rather than refuse it based on my PoV, I await other editors comments - Arjayay (talk) 08:27, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

I tend to agree with Arjayay, at least based on the article as it's currently written. I could maybe see someone working coverage of facts like this into the article as it would be good information about him as a songwriter, but it would require a much broader view of his career rather than one fact about one song (and some careful writing to avoid it becoming unwieldy as Arjayay mentioned). I'm closing this; feel free to reopen and ping me if needed. Thanks, ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 14:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2015

The biography of Freddie Mercury states that he has written ten songs including "Crazy little thing called love". In fact Elvis Presley recorded that song in 1965 before Freddie Mercury recorded at all. You can easily see and hear Elvis sing the song by going to that song on Youtube music videos.   Marc H Lavietes Lavietmh (talk) 00:50, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Lavietmh (talk) 00:50, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

 Not donePresley died in 1977. Crazy Little Thing Called Love was written in 1979, as a tribute to Presley. I don't know what videos you're looking at, but they're wrong. Also, Youtube is not a reliable source. Cannolis (talk) 02:24, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Kenny Everett

Why is there nothing about Freddie and Kenny relationship on this page? There was even a TV programme about it; http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/information/a7520/when-freddie-mercury-met-kenny-everett.html#~oABrKHu1h26LBo Yet nothing on here Why? --Crazyseiko (talk) 23:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

LGBT is written as GLBT. I was not able to correct it, so I'd like to ask the admin to do so. Appreciate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omniavincitamor (talk • contribs) 13:18, 2 September 2014 (UTC) Does anyone have any proper ref about the Friendship with Kenny Everett, before I start looking up books etc.--Crazyseiko (talk) 12:44, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I need other people to explain: WHY cant we use the ref from the TV show? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

Film, TV, or video recordings[edit] Citations for films, TV episodes, or video recordings typically include: name of the director name of the producer, if relevant title of the film or TV series in italics: - When Freddie Mercury Met Kenny Everett name of the studio : - Blackwatch Productions year of release  : - Sunday, 2nd June 2002 medium (for example: film, videocassette, DVD) = TV approximate time at which event or point of interest occurs, where appropri

• http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f
• http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Living+on+the+edge%3B+When+Freddie+Mercury+Met+Kenny+Everett+Ch4,...-a086533343
• http://www.aveleyman.com/TVEpisode.aspx?FilmID=1773&Episode=20020602
• http://www.blackwatchmedia.co.uk/when-kenny-everett-met-freddie-mercury/

Im having real trouble getting this in book form, It might explain why the TV Doc was made in the first place.... Freddie Auto bio is rather poor about the subject and seems to whitewash alot!

Freddie Mercury and Kenny Everett became close friends over the years they knew each other. First meeting in 1974,http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f Kenny had invited Freddie on to his breakfast show on Capital FM; the pair hit it off instantly. During the 1970s, their friendship became closer, with Everett becoming advisor and mentor to Mercury - and Mercury as Everett's confidante, helping Kenny to accept his sexuality. Throughout the early-mid 80s, the pair continued to explore their homosexuality - in addition to drugs - and while the pair were never lovers, they did experience London night life on a regular basis together. During this time Kenny and Freddie became involved with Nicolai Grishanovitch and a Spanish waiter named Pepe Flores. By 1985, the pair had also fallen out over a disagreement on their using and sharing of drugs. During 1988, Audrey Lee "Lady Lee" Middleton completed her autobiography, with the foreword from Kenny. Unusually, shortly after its publication and newspaper serialisation, Kenny denounced the book for outing him. The fallout resulted in the pair only speaking via lawyer, with their friends - including Freddie - choosing to support Lee. source]] Kenny and Freddie started talking again in 1989, with their failing health. Their closeness was not on the same level as years previous, but they were able to reconcile their differences.

What are we going to do about this, IT will have to get put back in,. --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

The entire section needs to be referenced, point by point. Go to google books, search for Everett and Freddie Mercury. You dont need to use several sources, just the one published source and then refer to a specific page in the book that verifies each point. I'd also mention Everett being a huge factor in the band getting significant airplay as it was he who played Boh Rhapsody constantly.--Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 00:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Here the issues, FM auto has little about Kenny it, and also pretty much whitewashes his involvement with the song. Said book is pretty poor. Goolge books also has not been helpful! I was also hoping someone else would help but that seems alas a no.

Alas because the book is out of print and the other one is not easy to get it not been able to resolve--Crazyseiko (talk) 16:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC) this.

There must be some where to resolve this issue? --Crazyseiko (talk) 10:32, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Untill one of those books turn up it going to be hard to deal with this even thought there is TV programme about it. --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:17, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

References

Wikipedia article or Tabloid

A lot of this article reads like a tabloid. This is probably because the subject died from AIDS and wasn't heterosexual. If the subject had died in any other way and had been heterosexual it would read dramatically differently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denisrodman88 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Edit Request: Correct real name in

In Bibliography, is written "Farookh Bulsara", can you please correct in "Farrokh Bulsara" (two "r", one "o"), as in the incipit? Thanks. -- 94.39.59.218 (talk)

Done Mlpearc (open channel) 19:21, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2016

Scarsdale.vibe (talk) 07:53, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Mercury should be labeled of "Parsi" descent as he is from the Parsi community of South Asia. "Persian" is too vague and could be interpreted as meaning he's from contemporary Iran. Parsis are descended from Persian immigrants to India from a millennia ago and have a distinctive identity that can't be referred to without context as "Persian". He must be labeled as "of Parsi descent". Anyone can click on the Parsi link to read about the community's roots in Zoroastrian Persia. He is an Indian Parsi born in Zanzibar.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 20:48, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

His Parsi descent is referenced further into the article. The lead did in fact link to Parsi, but this had been misleadingly piped to read "Persian". I have removed the unnecessary and misleading pipe. I have also removed the pipe that made Sultanate of Zanzibar appear as "Tanzania" - Tanzania did not exist at the time of his birth, as is trivially easy to verify. DuncanHill (talk) 21:03, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

The misleading pipes were introduced without explanation here and here. DuncanHill (talk) 21:12, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Done for reasons given above, DuncanHill (talk) 21:16, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Kenny Everett

Why is there nothing about Freddie and Kenny relationship on this page? There was even a TV programme about it; http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/information/a7520/when-freddie-mercury-met-kenny-everett.html#~oABrKHu1h26LBo Yet nothing on here Why? --Crazyseiko (talk) 23:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

LGBT is written as GLBT. I was not able to correct it, so I'd like to ask the admin to do so. Appreciate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omniavincitamor (talk • contribs) 13:18, 2 September 2014 (UTC) Does anyone have any proper ref about the Friendship with Kenny Everett, before I start looking up books etc.--Crazyseiko (talk) 12:44, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

I need other people to explain: WHY cant we use the ref from the TV show? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources

Film, TV, or video recordings[edit] Citations for films, TV episodes, or video recordings typically include: name of the director name of the producer, if relevant title of the film or TV series in italics: - When Freddie Mercury Met Kenny Everett name of the studio : - Blackwatch Productions year of release  : - Sunday, 2nd June 2002 medium (for example: film, videocassette, DVD) = TV approximate time at which event or point of interest occurs, where appropri

• http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f
• http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Living+on+the+edge%3B+When+Freddie+Mercury+Met+Kenny+Everett+Ch4,...-a086533343
• http://www.aveleyman.com/TVEpisode.aspx?FilmID=1773&Episode=20020602
• http://www.blackwatchmedia.co.uk/when-kenny-everett-met-freddie-mercury/

Im having real trouble getting this in book form, It might explain why the TV Doc was made in the first place.... Freddie Auto bio is rather poor about the subject and seems to whitewash alot!

Freddie Mercury and Kenny Everett became close friends over the years they knew each other. First meeting in 1974,http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8814ef4f Kenny had invited Freddie on to his breakfast show on Capital FM; the pair hit it off instantly. During the 1970s, their friendship became closer, with Everett becoming advisor and mentor to Mercury - and Mercury as Everett's confidante, helping Kenny to accept his sexuality. Throughout the early-mid 80s, the pair continued to explore their homosexuality - in addition to drugs - and while the pair were never lovers, they did experience London night life on a regular basis together. During this time Kenny and Freddie became involved with Nicolai Grishanovitch and a Spanish waiter named Pepe Flores. By 1985, the pair had also fallen out over a disagreement on their using and sharing of drugs. During 1988, Audrey Lee "Lady Lee" Middleton completed her autobiography, with the foreword from Kenny. Unusually, shortly after its publication and newspaper serialisation, Kenny denounced the book for outing him. The fallout resulted in the pair only speaking via lawyer, with their friends - including Freddie - choosing to support Lee. source]] Kenny and Freddie started talking again in 1989, with their failing health. Their closeness was not on the same level as years previous, but they were able to reconcile their differences.

What are we going to do about this, IT will have to get put back in,. --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:39, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

The entire section needs to be referenced, point by point. Go to google books, search for Everett and Freddie Mercury. You dont need to use several sources, just the one published source and then refer to a specific page in the book that verifies each point. I'd also mention Everett being a huge factor in the band getting significant airplay as it was he who played Boh Rhapsody constantly.--Carlos Rojas77 (talk) 00:39, 12 December 2014 (UTC)

Here the issues, FM auto has little about Kenny it, and also pretty much whitewashes his involvement with the song. Said book is pretty poor. Goolge books also has not been helpful! I was also hoping someone else would help but that seems alas a no.

Alas because the book is out of print and the other one is not easy to get it not been able to resolve--Crazyseiko (talk) 16:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC) this.

There must be some where to resolve this issue? --Crazyseiko (talk) 10:32, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Untill one of those books turn up it going to be hard to deal with this even thought there is TV programme about it. --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:17, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

I will not let this rest and be swept under the carpet. --Crazyseiko (talk) 09:54, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 20 March 2016

Freddie Mercury was an Azerbaijani singer his parents where Azeri IMike441 (talk) 22:00, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Amortias (T)(C) 23:50, 20 March 2016 (UT