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I'm doubtful as to whether the horse Mandarin actually 'broke down' in the last half a mile as that would surely have resulted in the horse being pulled up straight away, even if close to the finishing line. The broken bit and the high regard the ride was held in are verified by the linked obituaries however.
Last edited at 23:30, 12 December 2010 (UTC).
Substituted at 15:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
