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the former List of works by Franz Kafka was merged into this article 09:58, 20 June 2016, keeping Talk:List of works by Franz Kafka as an archive to this talk page (where also the preliminary merge discussion and the DYK notice of the former independent list can be found).

Amendment suggestion

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Having consulted A Franz Kafka encyclopedia, I'd suggest the following amendments: (I don't know whether the English titles are the commonly chosen ones though and if citing the source is permitted to the extent I did it below.)

Short Stories

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the longer stories
Memories of the Kalda Railway Erinnerungen an die Kaldabahn
shorter stories and parables
Grand-Scale Noise Großer Lärm
Conversation with the Supplicant Gespräch mit dem Beter The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
Conversation with the Drunk Gespräch mit dem Betrunkenen

Essays

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Title Original German title Notes Included in:
The Airplanes at Brescia Die Aeroplane in Brescia Report on the air show at Brescia The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
The First Long Train Ride Die erste lange Eisenbahnfahrt First chapter in the fragmentary novel Richard und Samuel by Max Brod and Kafka The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
A Departed Journal Eine entschlafene Zeitschrift Review of the discontinued literary journal Hyperion The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
A Novel about Youth Ein Roman der Jugend Review of Felix Sternheim's Die Geschichte des jungen Oswald The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
On Kleist's Anecdotes Über Kleist's Anekdoten Review of a collection of Heinrich Kleist's anecdotes The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
A Ladies' Breviary Ein Dramenbrevier Review of Franz Blei's volume of stories
From Matliary Aus Matlárháza Review of an exhibition of Anton Holub's paintings

--Emaster82 (talk) 22:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this - I've added all the information that I could verify immediately, as for the rest I'll look into it and update as I go. AshcroftIleum (talk) 10:42, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?

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The article was expanded by Franz Kafka works, which is not a true merge, to my understanding. At least merge the talk pages also. The history is broken. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:34, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • What is a "true merge" is explained at WP:MERGE. Yes, this was a true merge, see also notices regarding the merge at the top of this talk page. Also the talk page cross-links and converting the other talk page into an archive linked from this page is quite in order. Only remaining thing is to clean up double redirects. I did so, unsucessfully in one instance (reverted by an out-of process revert), but assume a bot will clean that up if nobody else does. --Francis Schonken (talk) 10:46, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted before I noticed that you had "merged", sorry. People who want to read what was on the Main page on 3 July 2013 are up for a surprise. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So, undo your revert (which converted a correct redirect into a non-working double redirect), so people won't be up for a surprise. The material is included in the bibliography page where the Franz Kafka works page should redirect to without double redirect. --Francis Schonken (talk) 10:56, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The bot will do that. The surprise is where these links go, - not to the article linked from archives such as Wikipedia:DYKSTATS/Archive 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:06, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The only mainspace link needing readjustment was in the author's biography article (cleaned up) – links from other namespaces are traditionally (i.e., better according to consensus) not cleaned up. --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:18, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Reverted, to please you. Kindly mention somewhere that the original name of the incorporated list was Franz Kafka works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:12, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It is mentioned in this talk page's archive, see links on top of this page. --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:18, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) Well hidden. - I see readers arrive at this page and rub their eyes. I better don't say what I think of the compilation, and better try to forget one of my only two successful DYK articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
after ec: I like to please, like it or not, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Re. "trying to please Francis" – this is not about pleasing me, it is a self-revert after an inopportune revert (see discussion above, the first revert created a double redirect which should be avoided, not while I like it that way, but because that's how the software works). If it weren't for the off-topic edit summary I'd have thanked you for the self-revert. --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:27, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Talking about edit summaries: When the content merged in (developed for Kafka's biography but not wanted there) arrived here for the first time, it was not received well, so I took it out, back in 2012. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The suggestion in the edit summary reads "... might be best to integrate into main list" – after four years that suggestion is again up (and nobody suggested to take it out to a separate page creating new problems instead of addressing the known ones). --Francis Schonken (talk) 13:44, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Then as now, I would not know how to do that, sorry. Good luck to you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please keep the discussion of this merge in one place ([1]) --Francis Schonken (talk) 23:08, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Kindly let me give background to a friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:18, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That background is discussed here, the discussion is still open – a link to this talk page section would have suffised, or pinging the editor to here. Friend or not, I warned you about forumshopping before, e.g. [2], [3] --Francis Schonken (talk) 23:27, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
unwatching this article, it's getting too kafkaesque --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:33, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Removed by Bgwhite from Franz Kafka works ([4]):

History:

Which was what was discussed above. --Francis Schonken (talk) 23:34, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Further integration of material after merge

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Do the tables and/or text need further integration after the merge of the former List of works page into this page? If so: how? Suggestions welcome! --Francis Schonken (talk) 05:15, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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