Talk:Franz Kafka bibliography

Text and/or other creative content from List of works by Franz Kafka was copied or moved into Franz Kafka bibliography. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Bibliographies High‑importance

	Books portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Bibliographies, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Bibliographies on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.BibliographiesWikipedia:WikiProject BibliographiesTemplate:WikiProject BibliographiesBibliographies
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the importance scale.

Books

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Books. To participate in the project, please visit its page, where you can join the project and discuss matters related to book articles. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the relevant guideline for the type of work.BooksWikipedia:WikiProject BooksTemplate:WikiProject BooksBook

Novels High‑importance

	Novels portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Novels, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to the general Project discussion to talk over new ideas and suggestions.NovelsWikipedia:WikiProject NovelsTemplate:WikiProject Novelsnovel
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Page merge and talk page archive: the former List of works by Franz Kafka was merged into this article 09:58, 20 June 2016, keeping Talk:List of works by Franz Kafka as an archive to this talk page (where also the preliminary merge discussion and the DYK notice of the former independent list can be found).

Amendment suggestion

Having consulted A Franz Kafka encyclopedia, I'd suggest the following amendments: (I don't know whether the English titles are the commonly chosen ones though and if citing the source is permitted to the extent I did it below.)

Short Stories

**the longer stories**
Memories of the Kalda Railway	Erinnerungen an die Kaldabahn

**shorter stories and parables**
Grand-Scale Noise	Großer Lärm
Conversation with the Supplicant	Gespräch mit dem Beter	The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
Conversation with the Drunk	Gespräch mit dem Betrunkenen

Essays


Title	Original German title	Notes	Included in:
The Airplanes at Brescia	Die Aeroplane in Brescia	Report on the air show at Brescia	The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
The First Long Train Ride	Die erste lange Eisenbahnfahrt	First chapter in the fragmentary novel Richard und Samuel by Max Brod and Kafka	The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
A Departed Journal	Eine entschlafene Zeitschrift	Review of the discontinued literary journal Hyperion	The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
A Novel about Youth	Ein Roman der Jugend	Review of Felix Sternheim's Die Geschichte des jungen Oswald	The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
On Kleist's Anecdotes	Über Kleist's Anekdoten	Review of a collection of Heinrich Kleist's anecdotes	The Penal Colony: Stories and Short Pieces
A Ladies' Breviary	Ein Dramenbrevier	Review of Franz Blei's volume of stories
From Matliary	Aus Matlárháza	Review of an exhibition of Anton Holub's paintings

--Emaster82 (talk) 22:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this - I've added all the information that I could verify immediately, as for the rest I'll look into it and update as I go. AshcroftIleum (talk) 10:42, 2 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge?

The article was expanded by Franz Kafka works, which is not a true merge, to my understanding. At least merge the talk pages also. The history is broken. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:34, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What is a "true merge" is explained at WP:MERGE. Yes, this was a true merge, see also notices regarding the merge at the top of this talk page. Also the talk page cross-links and converting the other talk page into an archive linked from this page is quite in order. Only remaining thing is to clean up double redirects. I did so, unsucessfully in one instance (reverted by an out-of process revert), but assume a bot will clean that up if nobody else does. --Francis Schonken (talk) 10:46, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted before I noticed that you had "merged", sorry. People who want to read what was on the Main page on 3 July 2013 are up for a surprise. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:52, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So, undo your revert (which converted a correct redirect into a non-working double redirect), so people won't be up for a surprise. The material is included in the bibliography page where the Franz Kafka works page should redirect to without double redirect. --Francis Schonken (talk) 10:56, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

~~The bot will do that.~~ The surprise is where these links go, - not to the article linked from archives such as Wikipedia:DYKSTATS/Archive 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:06, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The only mainspace link needing readjustment was in the author's biography article (cleaned up) – links from other namespaces are traditionally (i.e., better according to consensus) not cleaned up. --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:18, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted, to please you. Kindly mention somewhere that the original name of the incorporated list was Franz Kafka works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:12, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It is mentioned in this talk page's archive, see links on top of this page. --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:18, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) Well hidden. - I see readers arrive at this page and rub their eyes. I better don't say what I think of the compilation, and better try to forget one of my only two successful DYK articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

after ec: I like to please, like it or not, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Re. "trying to please Francis" – this is not about pleasing me, it is a self-revert after an inopportune revert (see discussion above, the first revert created a double redirect which should be avoided, not while I like it that way, but because that's how the software works). If it weren't for the off-topic edit summary I'd have thanked you for the self-revert. --Francis Schonken (talk) 11:27, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Talking about edit summaries: When the content merged in (developed for Kafka's biography but not wanted there) arrived here for the first time, it was not received well, so I took it out, back in 2012. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The suggestion in the edit summary reads "... might be best to integrate into main list" – after four years that suggestion is again up (and nobody suggested to take it out to a separate page creating new problems instead of addressing the known ones). --Francis Schonken (talk) 13:44, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Then as now, I would not know how to do that, sorry. Good luck to you, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep the discussion of this merge in one place ([1]) --Francis Schonken (talk) 23:08, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly let me give background to a friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:18, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

That background is discussed here, the discussion is still open – a link to this talk page section would have suffised, or pinging the editor to here. Friend or not, I warned you about forumshopping before, e.g. [2], [3] --Francis Schonken (talk) 23:27, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

unwatching this article, it's getting too kafkaesque --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:33, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Removed by Bgwhite from Franz Kafka works ([4]):

History:

page created 19 September 2012, as a split off from Franz Kafka bibliography (where the material had been introduced two days earlier from the Franz Kafka biography [5] [6]): [7] [8]
moved to List of works by Franz Kafka in 2015 (move discussion at Talk:List of works by Franz Kafka#Requested move 15 August 2015)
after four years of separate life, content merged back with with Franz Kafka bibliography in 2016, with the page history during the time as a separate article at https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=List_of_works_by_Franz_Kafka&action=history and the talk page of the separate article at Talk:List of works by Franz Kafka

Which was what was discussed above. --Francis Schonken (talk) 23:34, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Further integration of material after merge

Do the tables and/or text need further integration after the merge of the former List of works page into this page? If so: how? Suggestions welcome! --Francis Schonken (talk) 05:15, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Franz Kafka bibliography. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 18:51, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion

The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion:

Metamorphosis.jpg

Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 04:37, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]