Talk:Francesca da Rimini (Tchaikovsky)

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All the wrangling over this article, and no one has noticed that toss-off bit about flames. Tchaikovsky took his story from Dante, and knew what he was doing. The whirling chromaticism in the second and fourth sections symbolizes wind, not flames: the monstrous tempest that Dante tells us rages eternally around the second circle of Hell, in which both Paolo and Francesca are caught. Dante's tempest symbolizes lust itself, and Tchaikowsky uses this as well, in the third section: The accompaniment behind the repetitions of the love song, as it builds up, gradually takes on more and more of this same chromatic "windy" character. In Dante's scheme of Hell, flames don't put in an appearance until the sixth circle.

Also, it is one of the strange mercies in Dante's picture of Hell: Paolo and Francesca are together. They are not "separated from each other, never to touch again." See here: http://italian.about.com/library/anthology/dante/blinferno005.htm beginning at line 73 ("And I began: 'O Poet, willingly / Speak would I to those two, who go together, / And seem upon the wind to be so light.' ...") 67.49.26.239 (talk) 11:18, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of notable recording

From what I can find, the organ version is the only organ arrangement of this piece music. Also since it seems to sound pretty good, I would think it should remain listed as a notable recording. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrmbgz (talk • contribs) 11:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you have any references showing the notability of this composer, and this arrangement, by all means, add them. However, this composer's article was recently deleted because the composer was non-notable. This is part of cleanup following that deletion. JDoorjam JDiscourse 01:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Under notable recording is a long list of works by different excellent orchestras. However, one of them is singled out by a good review in a BBC program from 2010. I'm not sure if this is proper since I'm sure many other recordings also have great reviews. Why point out just one to listen to or buy? Lmlmss44 (talk) 03:18, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Musical Opinions

Multiple paragraphs about influences and themes without a single citation, this is at best Original Research.

I'll look for cites and remove all the uncited music criticism in a month or two.Tim Bray (talk) 18:01, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Notes to myself) - decent looking source with primary citations: "Tchaikovsky Research" site

OK, surveyed four biographies and found several useful citations in three of them. Discarded quite a bit of amateur music criticism.