Talk:Foreign worker
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[edit]The article says, "Foreign workers are distinguished from expatriates in that they have not eschewed citizenship of their nation of origin." But expatriates usually don't "eschew citizenship" of their nation of origin, either. - dcljr (talk) 22:07, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
"Current estimates of the total number of international foreign workers stand at about 25 million". a source is needed for this. the number strikes me as ridiculously low.
most migrant workers were paid very little like $50 a month and they usually spent it getting drunk in strip clubs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.244.4.54 (talk) 23:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I remember seeing a breakdown of Filipino/a migrant workers. I think they alone accounted for about 10 million.
The article is getting there. Looking better.
It seems to be inconsistent that the Migrant worker section is almost empty, but this Foreign worker section contains both "Legal Definition of Migrant Worker" and "Migrant Worker Organizers" sections. It would seem to make sense to move the Migrant-worker-related stuff to the Migrant worker section, and link to it from this Foreign worker section. Migrant worker seems to imply moving to survive, or to escape from poverty, whereas Foreign seems to merely mean "different nationality". So a university lecturer working overseas would be a "Foreign worker" rather than a "Migrant worker". LittleBen 13:35, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Hobos aren't globtrotters
[edit]The attemt to agregate "guest worker" with ever poor unfortunate in the universe is duely noted and it ain't gonna fly. Migrants _are_ typically moving to survive while "foreign workers" in large part are not. That may be a USA centric statement, but the words 'migrant worker' in the USA are much more linked to hobo's and farm workers from Oklahoma and, yes, farmworkers from So. of the Texas border. We do not speak of H1B's as being in the USA as "migrants" and certainly we do not refer to green card holders as migrants.--The Trucker 19:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Definition of "Guest worker"
[edit]Here in the US, I have never heard the term "guest worker," used to describe anyone here illegally. On the contrary, it is the term used to distinguish legal from illegal temporary foreign workers in the US. For example, participants in the Bracero program, which operated in the US from the 1940s to the 1960s, were called guest workers. Again, in the current debate, the proposal for legal temporary workers is referred to as a guest worker program. Is there any nation where illegal residents are referred to as guest workers?Plazak 19:54, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Possible Citation
[edit]RE: "Current estimates of the total number of international foreign workers stand at about 25 million". a source is needed for this.
Labor Mobility and the Global Economy: Should the World Trade Organization Set Migration Policy? Page 4 (Adobe reader pg12) http://www.afsc.org/trade-matters/issues/LaborMobility.pdf (Document has zero references to search term "copyright")
"Worldwide, the rate of migration grew at 6% a year during the 1990s, a rate faster than population growth as a whole. There are currently about 200 million people living outside their countries of birth.5 There are more than 86 million economically active migrants in the world, about 32 million of which are in developing regions.6"
Reference: 5. Migration in an interconnected world: New directions for action. Report of the Global Commission on International Migration (GCIM), (October 2005) Switzerland: SRO-Kundig, pg 83
6. Towards a fair deal for migrant workers in the global economy, (2004) International Labor Conference, 92nd Session, PDF version pg 7
hi,my fellow debaters —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.148.0.33 (talk) 04:17, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Lack of Citations
[edit]The latest additions to this page read like a press release from the local union involved in the dispute and lack any citations at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.160.157.14 (talk) 17:02, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Peer Review
[edit]Overall, I think you did a great job adding new material to the “Foreign Worker” article! I think it was very informative how you targeted a region—the Middle East—and then broke down foreign labor by country.
I might suggest working on three main things:
- restructuring the article,
- adding more sources,
- and connecting your article to pre-existing relevant articles.
On the first point, I would suggest restructuring how your contribution fits into the existing article because right now it is a little confusing. As it is the existing article explored foreign work in a few countries already. I would suggest restructuring the article as follows:
Lead Section
Foreign worker by region
North America
1. Canada
2. US
Middle East
1. Background
2. Xenophobia and Racism
2. Domestic Workers
3. Kuwait
4. Oman
5. UAE
6. Saudia Arabia
Controversy
Secondly, I think you need more sources! Right now your article draws on about 6 sources. I might suggest using a combination of books, scholarly articles, news sources, and information from international organizations such as the WHO, World Bank, and UN. I would try to aim for having maybe 4 – 7 sources per every lengthy paragraph. Also, do not forget to check the formatting on your sources to make sure that they are formatted correctly. Right now, you have some that are formatted incorrectly with bullet points.
Thirdly, I think that your article definitely has relevance to and can be linked to other page articles. For example, right now there are no links to other pages. For a start, I would suggest adding links to the pages “Domestic Worker,” “Xenophobia,” “Expatriate,” and “Racism.”
Finally, do not forget to add the course banner to your WikiTalk page and add pictures, too!
Overall, great job on working to improve this article! —Sarah.heberlig 01:44, 1 April 2014
The german word for Foreign worker Fremdarbeiter is a negative connoted term
[edit]The german word for Foreign worker Fremdarbeiter is a negative connoted term because it was used by Nazis, that was the reason why Western Germans called their foreign workers Gastarbeiter in English Guest workers and Eastern Germans gave their Foreign workers the name Contract workers.--John E. Yates (talk) 16:45, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
Wikidata ontologic problem whereby no German Wikipedia article can be linked in Languages nav pane here
[edit]See Wikidata:Wikidata:Interwiki_conflicts/Unresolved/2018#foreign_worker_(Q10512400)/gastarbeiter_(Q644903). Quercus solaris (talk) 16:08, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
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