Talk:Folkspraak

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Don't delete!

This is an article (or, should I say, a stub) in its own right - there is one on Esperanto Wikipedia and several others so there can be one on this wiki too.

The language has its web sites, its proponents and its very active community (just take a look at the Yahoo group). So if there can be and article on Esperanto, Volapük or any other artificial language (provided that a certain amount of time has passed and that the language has therefore proved itself to be more than a fad) there can be one on Folkspraak. --ArkinAardvark (talk) 13:32, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

60's origin?

I'm not sure on the 60's origin. I have never seen that fact independently corroborated. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 17:42, 18 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unified Folkspraak

There seems to be on the Yahoo group the beginnings of a unified Folkspraak, as opposed to the previous case where there were many "dialects" being developed on as candidates for a central idea. Messages after 26 August on the yahoo discussion group seem to confirm this direction, and the Files/Vordboken section (must join as a member to view) has a very recent (as of writing this) dictionary with words in this direction (although it may be edited very soon given that some words are under scrutiny by the makers to see if they can be improved). This may be useful for future revisions of the article if things continue to progress for Folkspraak. Ceigered (talk) 05:27, 28 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Diacritics

not used? Orksprak example suggests otherwise... Errarel (talk) 19:45, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NO To Deletion

As has been previously discussed, this article has substantial worth and shouldn't be deleted on a one-sided basis simply because you feel it is petty. If you have a good argument as to its deletion, you can discuss it here and not simply go all vigilante. Thank you, JSBrowand13 (talk) 10:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As has been previously discussed, Folkspraak does not meet the notability and verifiability criteria because no reliable third-party sources provide any significant coverage of it. Feel free to join the discussion over at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Folkspraak (2nd nomination). QVVERTYVS (hm?) 13:37, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Langmaker

langmaker.com is now a Turkish blog; I can't tell whether it has any linguistic content. —Tamfang (talk) 23:23, 22 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Who?

I really think this article would be better if the developers of the conlang were actually names. Conlangs are devised, by individuals or groups, but they are developed by known people. Why should we not know it here? -- Evertype·✆ 11:48, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is that Folkspraak has gone through very different stages with very different people. As far as I know, it has been a collaborative projects from the very beginning, perhaps it is even the first internet-based conlang project. The first author was probably Jeffrey Henning. I've done some research on Folkspraak, and look what I've found:

The Folkspraakmaister is responsible for coordinating development of Folkspraak. Individuals can volunteer to participate in designing the phonology, morphology, vocabulary, grammar and so forth of Folkspraak, with the Folkspraakmaister simply coordinating areas so that individuals can work together rather than independently (on phonology, for instance). The Folkspraakmaister will democratically settle any conflicting disputes in accordance with the basic general design principles.
The position of Folkspraakmaister has a three-month term, with each Folkspraakmaister to be elected from within the Folkspraakgeist community. The first Folkspraakmaister was Jeffrey Henning; his term expired 2/28/96. The current Folkspraakmaister, serving until 5/31/96, is Dale Morris.[1]

Jeff's site Langmaker.com has had a separate page about Folkspraak for a long time. After Langmaker.com had changed into a wiki, the Folkspraak entry listed him as the original author back in 1995.[2] As far as I know, Jeff stopped working on it at some point, and the project became inactive. It was resumed by other people in 1999.[3] In 2000, the Folkspraak page wrote:

The language is evolving into two dialects, called (tongue-in-cheek) Folkspraak Express and Folkspraak Pro. The newcomer, Folkspraak Pro, is a superset of Folkspraak Express that differs by emphasizing adherence to an artistic representation of a Germanic language over ease of use; Folkspraak Pro will have a richer grammar, a richer phonology and possibly a unique script as well.[4]

In 2001 another website was established, "Der Folkspraakinstitut", apparently run by Bill Courson. [5] It contained a rather interesting account on the history of Folkspraak:

Folkspraak (or Folksprok) developed in the mid-1960's as a pidgin speech used by and among an interdenominational and international monastic community located in an abandoned medieval convent on a small island off the western coast of Denmark.[6]

Later, this turned out to be a complete fabrication.[7] In any case, at another place Courson is listed as the author of Folkspraak ("Le Folkspraak est une idéolangue créée en 2001 par Bill Courson").[8]

At some point during the following years the project seems to have fallen apart into several subprojects, called Folksprák, Fůlkspræk, Sprak, etc.). Folksprak (with one a) still has a website[9] and a wiki. Other versions are Nordien(isk), Frenkish, Middelsprake, etc. —IJzeren Jan _Uszkiełtu? 19:56, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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