Talk:Flag of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

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A fact from Flag of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 17 July 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that diamonds were featured on the flag of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (pictured) because the previous breadfruit leaf was hard to recognise from afar?

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Yellow stripe

That yellow stripe in the middle of the flag... Is that a Canadian pale? -- Denelson 83 05:11, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The yellow stripe shown on the current flag is a Canadian pale. On the last two historic flags, either they are not supposed to be Canadian pales, or the flags were drawn wrong because the center stripe is not half the width of the flag like a Canadian pale is supposed to be. Kurt (talk) 01:47, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Bloom6132 for fixing the descriptions. Kurt (talk) 11:52, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Historical flags don't have svg edition

The size of flags is a little bit small for me that i want to see them in bigger and clearer sizes!74.125.185.18 (talk) 07:57, 6 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.190.116.123 (talk) 12:55, 5 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 16:31, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Flag of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

... that the diamonds on the flag of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (pictured) allude to the country's nicknames as the "Gems of the Antilles" and the "Jewels of the Caribbean"? Source: Encyclopædia Britannica; CIA World Factbook
- ALT1:... that diamonds were featured on the flag of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines (pictured) because the previous breadfruit leaf was hard to ascertain from afar? Source: Encyclopædia Britannica

Reviewed: Ore Dock Brewing Company

5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:36, 26 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]

5x expansion just freshly done. I'm lazy in looking for a QPQ this time, so I picked a fresh nomination. Hooks are interesting and both cited inline with Encyclopedia Britannica, which I looked up at WP:RSP. Some don't think it's the best source, I think it's good enough but would be better with a secondary source instead of tertiary. The article has citations throughout. It appears to be written neutrally. How many more flags do you have to go until baseball comes back? GTG. – Muboshgu (talk) 03:11, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Historical flag proportions

In the chart of historical designs, the two most recent (preceding the current design) are described as Canadian pales (a tricolor in which the center stripe is half the flag's length rather than one-third), but the images shown are equal-width tricolors. Can someone verify the proportions and edit either the text or the images, whichever may be incorrect? [If you do, please be sure the white fimbriations on the older one are correct as well. If there's a strict definition of their width, it should be duly noted.] Etymographer (talk) 05:14, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I just came here to say this. I tagged it for no citations after noticing the discrepancy - Dumelow (talk) 06:47, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Harrias (talk · contribs) 12:21, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look at this. Harrias ^talk 12:21, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

As this article is marked as using BrEng, all the dates should be converted to DMY, rather than MDY.
Ref #4 only needs the year rather than a date, and also could do with the ISBN adding.
Ref #7 could do with the ISSN adding, and ideally the title of the article.

Prose review to follow. Harrias ^talk 12:35, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All addressed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 15:13, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Images

Unless there is a policy that I am not aware of that covers them, the flags need license tags to cover their original design, not just the SVG recreations used on Wikipedia. Harrias ^talk 13:35, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies – I'm actually not very familiar with licensing tags (only uploaded 4 original files to the Commons). Which license tag(s) would be the most appropriate to use for the flags? —Bloom6132 (talk) 15:19, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, this is something of a grey area for me too. My understanding is that the current licenses seem to cover the recent SVG creations, but they are merely copies of older designs that need licenses to show why they can be used. @Nikkimaria and Buidhe: I wonder if either of you might be so kind as to provide some guidance here? Harrias ^talk 15:35, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's an academic question because the original flag design and the coat of arms are well expired (crown copyright), if they were ever protected to begin with. (Other elements of the flags do not meet threshold of originality.) (t · c) buidhe 19:49, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, we can just throw on a PD tag due to copyright expiration for the original design. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:30, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. PD tags added to both the colonial Blue Ensign flags. —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:07, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Prose

As this article is marked as using BrEng, all the dates should be converted to DMY, rather than MDY.

Fixed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 15:15, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Similarly, utilize, epitomize, symbolize, organization should all use an "s" rather than a "z".

Changed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 15:15, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see any discussion in the History section about the 1907 change?

Done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:53, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see any discussion in the History section of the briefly used 1985 flag that just removed the white bands? The removal of the white bands is mentioned in relation to the "Gems" design, but on the basis of the Historical flags table, they had already gone?

Fixed. —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:47, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Historical flags section source does not distinguish between the 1877–1907 and 1907–1979 flags; another source will be needed for this.

Added source. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:29, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's it from me. I'll put this on hold. Harrias ^talk 13:35, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Harrias: thanks very much for the review! I hope I've addressed your comments satisfactorily. —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:47, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All looks good to me, nice work. Harrias ^talk 07:16, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]