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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Schwede66 talk 18:50, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

An example of a firefighter calendar page
An example of a firefighter calendar page

Created by Di (they-them) (talk). Self-nominated at 04:16, 9 October 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Firefighter calendar; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article was moved to mainspace within 7 days of nomination. 1800 characters of prose. Earwig picked up 1% of copyright violation, making it unlikely. QPQ done. I'm not entirely sure about the image used; it's an unofficial creation using a free image of a firefighter, but it does illustrate an example. The first paragraph is mostly unsourced, unless the one source at the end of the paragraph is supposed to encompass it. ALT1 is a better hook due to it being more specific but I wonder if you can create another hook that is less subjective. lullabying (talk) 18:38, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Lullabying: Is this hook ready to be approved? If not, what is still needed? Z1720 (talk) 01:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go. lullabying (talk) 08:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Di, I have to agree with lullabying that PetAge is not a reliable source. Companies as institutions can't be subject-matter experts, they can only be reliable in the general case if they are reputable or if there is evidence that their publications have strong, professional editorial controls and fact-checking. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 00:03, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 as is may need to be changed as who knows if calendars will still be popular in Taiwan in the future (the guidelines discourage hooks whose truthfulness or accuracy may change in the future), but a reworded version would be fine. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:08, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I'm sorry but unfortunately I can't think of any new hooks right now. I currently am struggling with some IRL things which is why I haven't been so up-to-date on this topic. I apologize for that. If anybody has any suggestions for a new hook, I am fine with anything. Di (they-them) (talk) 05:00, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Narutolovehinata5, could the ALT1 issue be finessed by changing "are" to "have been"? Another possibility is adding "currently" after "are", though with a 2020 source, that's a bit dicey; 2023 would be much better. (I don't know whether the fact that at least one municipality has released its own 2024 firefighter calendar would be sufficient; here's the link.) BlueMoonset (talk) 15:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BlueMoonset: That suggested wording is still somewhat imprecise. One alternative I could suggest is something like "That firefighter calendars gained popularity in Taiwan after..." or something to that effect. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:08, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Narutolovehinata5, I don't think there's enough information in the article to do an "after" hook as you suggest. If neither of our suggestions are adequate and the nominator can't think of anything, then perhaps this should be marked for closure—the nomination has been open for over three months, and it's the second oldest one left at DYK. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:46, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I shall close this. It’s hardly a new article any longer and no resolution is in sight. Schwede66 18:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]