Talk:Finger substitution

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Piano

With the modern piano, a player can avoid having to learn finger substitution on a sounding note by using the sustain pedal to prolong the note while the hand lifts and prepares for a new chord or melody note. While the sustain pedal can replace finger substitution and create a legato sound, piano teachers tend to frown on this use of the sustain pedal because it prevents the player from using the sustain pedal to control the tone and dynamics of the instrument.

This paragraph treats piano music as though each hand only plays a single note at a time, and that therefore finger substitution and legato pedaling are interchangeable. Not so! It ignores that finger substitution can't create legato chord playing in the way that legato pedaling can, and only finger substitution works in polyphonic passages that need to remain unblurred. Steve Bob (talk) 12:01, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Piano again

To change fingers on a key, the shorter finger is usually moved under the longer one in a quick motion.

Sorry, but this doesn't define finger substitution. The shorter finger may be sometimes under the longer one, but this is not what to achieve. They may also perfectly next to each other without any tension. The only aim is that two fingers share a key for a short moment. And ever tried to put the longer one under the shorter one? That doesn't make sense. The sentence implies that it could be also vice versa, but this is not the case. --2.246.39.224 (talk) 11:18, 25 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]