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March 27, 2011Good article nomineeListed
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Caution: The Biographies of Living Persons applies to this article!!!

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Taylor Swift wrote this song about her freshman year of high school. Taylor uses an autobiographic style. As such, Fifteen draws on biographical information about her, her friend, and their classmates. The Biographies of Living Persons policy states:

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Taylor and her peers were minors when these events occurred. Therefore, by Wikipedia policy and common courtesy, they are entitled to a greater presumption of privacy. Sehome Bay (talk) 00:06, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cute little vandalism

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diff. Be on the lookout for IP's "correcting grammar errors" (it's more suspicious than empty edit summaries). I'm seconds away from sleep or I'd fix it myself now. Chances are I'll still get to it first, but in case anyone's watching this page, take care of it.

Indeed I was the first one back to it. Green-eyed girl (Talk · Contribs) 01:37, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Matthew RD 18:19, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I shall be conducting this review. -- Matthew RD 18:19, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is how the article fares against the GA criteria:

  1. Well written: No dablinks, good, will feed back more later
  2. Factually accurate: No dead links, will feed back more later
  3. Broadness in coverage: Passes as far as length is concerned
  4. Neutral:
  5. Stable: No edit conflicts over the past 30 days, Passed
  6. Images: All fine and non-free images check out fine, Passed

Comments

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Lead:

  • In the lead section, it would help to describe Nathan Chapman's role (seems he is a music producer)
It says, "Swift self-penned the song and co-produced it along with Nathan Chapman." I suppose I could add the word producer in front of his name, but that would make it redundant. Anyhow, I think since it says he produced it that makes him a producer. -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 04:20, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, it is also mentioned he was a producer at the infobox. -- Matthew RD 12:54, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Background:

  • Ref [1] seems to say "Cut by But", but the title on the webside says "Cut by Cut"
  •  Done
  • "And Abigail gave everything she had to boy" never heard the song before, but isn't there a word missing here? Or is it just me?
  • Ref [1] does not say exactly which high school she attended.
  •  Done
  • The ref also doesn't recall the first verse quoted there either, but is mentioned in ref [9].
  • It does. "I wrote this around the story line of my best friend from high school, Abigail. I started everything with the line “Abigail gave everything she had to a boy who changed his mind” and wrote everything else from that point, almost backwards. I just decided I really wanted to tell that story about our first year of high school because I felt in my freshman year, I grew up more than any year in my life so far." -- ipodnano05 * leave@message 04:20, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, missed that. -- Matthew RD 12:54, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Swift became very nervous to show Abigail the song, for she did not know how Anderson would respond." You mentioned Swift's friend's name by both first and last names, the only instance in this article. Since you mentioned her by last name more, perhaps change sentence to "Swift became very nervous to show Anderson the song, for she did not know how her friend would respond."
  •  Done

Critical reception:

  • "best rack"? I thought the review was about the song not Swift's chest :)

Music video:

  • "The world moved from situation to the next." What situation? The one mentioned in the previous sentence?
  • "in order so she could guide herself." reword to "in order to guide herself."
  •  Done

@15:

  • "scenes of Swift encouraging reminiscing on high school" doesn't make sense, it seems "encouraging" was added by mistake, and it is included later in the sentence.
  •  Done

And that's about it. Quite a few concerns but shouldn't take too long hopefully. The article was a good read. I will place it on hold for seven days. Good luck. -- Matthew RD 02:57, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your responses. As all the issues have been addressed, I will now pass the article. Good job. -- Matthew RD 12:54, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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