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Ancestry

He is reported saying: "The purpose of my life is the destruction of Serbia". If confirmed, please place this unusual "purpose of life" in the article.

No wonder he felt so strongly against Serbs, being a descendant of so many Serbs himself, see ancestry of royals of Bulgaria Maed 20:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish?

In ""Raemaekers Cartoons" (1916), the Dutch cartoonist has a selection of his war cartoons with comments added by contemporary writers. The 'Ferdinand the Chameleon' cartoon has an essay by G.K. Chesterton attached. While attacking Ferdinand for changing his religion all the time, as the political winds blow, Chesterton says "he is in great part a Jew, and an advanced type of that mauvais juif who is the principle obstacle to all the attempts of the more rational and honest Jews to erect a rational status for their people."

Where does this idea come from? If true there should be some mention in the article; if false, it would be worth noting whether the idea was widespread at the time. Also, the article does not have much about the religious shifts mentioned; some more research would be useful. 86.128.125.209 (talk) 16:49, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The idea was about. See here:

The Evening Telegram, February 25 1897 https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=35&dat=18970225&id=3QFMAAAAIBAJ&sjid=7zoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=4414,6138839&hl=en

‘Kohary’, in this account, is a Hungarian version of the (rather distinguished) Jewish name of ‘ Cohen’. 88.84.2.117 (talk) 12:37, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also referenced here: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Koh%C3%A1ry

There doesn't seem the faintest possibility that the Hungarian House of Kohary was linked in any way to the Priestly House of Cohen, and bearing in mind the low repute of British journalism back then [ 1890s ] and now, and Chesterton's unholy fervour against the Central Powers, it seems likely he conflated his antisemitism with his anti-German hatred in a way typical of War essayists of the period. Seen also in Belloc and Nesta Webster, both mighty haters of the Hohenzollerns and sinister aliens. Claverhouse (talk) 00:16, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Claimed bisexuality

The claim that he is bisexual is given a lot of weight in the Personal life section. As it's sourced to a book called "Foxy Ferdinand", I'm a little suspicious, and I think it falls foul of WP:UNDUE whatever. Thoughts?

Is there any proof of the claim? Without video and/or photographic proof, the claim should be taken out. Mwahcysl (talk) 10:28, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's perfectly well-referenced, and an anonymous Wikipedian's discomfort with the book's title has no relevance. Please at least have the intellectual honesty to look at a source before passing judgement on it! - Nunh-huh 12:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But, the question is whether or not there is any proof. Without ironclad proof, it doesn't matter what one source claims. That source may be tainted. Mwahcysl (talk) 10:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But, the only way to judge a source is to actually look at it, which you haven't. You could also look at other sources and see if they conflict. But as it is, without looking at the source, and without any conflicting information from any other source, you seem to have no basis whatsoever for your doubts. - Nunh-huh 13:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I was the person who initially added the information about Ferdinand's bisexuality. The book, IIRC, was called "Foxy Ferdinand" as that was Ferdinand's nickname in royal circles around Europe (it's been some years since I read it so the memory is rusty). However, claims of his bisexuality are also made in other books about him I have read. If people are concerned about the title "Foxy Ferdinand", we can use one of the other sources listed as the reference. --Roisterer (talk) 23:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Foxy Ferdinand certainly qualifies as a WP:RS. Even so, since a bisexual king apparently leaves some people incredulous, adding additional references couldn't be a bad thing. - Nunh-huh 07:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just idly wondering why his nickname "Foxy Ferdinand" wasn't mentioned in the article when I chanced on this discussion. We'd need a source of course.Paulturtle (talk) 03:35, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing Conversion

Per WP policy, I have converted ibid referencing to short referencing. There is one reference to the securing of access to the Aegean Sea (in the Balkan Wars section) that was ambiguous (was the ibid refering to the previous reference in the text (Louda, 1981, p 297) or the previous reference in the reference list (Aronson, 1986, p 87)?) I have made an assumption that it was referring to the previous reference in the text, but have left an editors note as it should be double checked against the original texts. I don't have access to these and was thus unable to do the check myself. Once the check has been done, the editor's note can be removed. Cheers AusTerrapin (talk) 02:32, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Still in the crypt?

The final sentances - "His final wish was to be buried in Bulgaria, and for this reason his coffin was temporarily placed in the crypt of St. Augustin's Roman Catholic Church in Coburg, next to his mother's and father's coffins. It could still be found there today.", are very ambiguous. Does it mean that his body is in Bulgaria, but the coffin is in Coburg? Or does it mean that we have to hunt for the coffin, so that we find it? Does the 'could' mean that maybe it could be found somewhere else, but no one knows? I would edit this myself, but I don't know - Is he still in Coburg? Yes or no? Does anyone know? If he is still there I think it would be better to say that the coffin was placed in the crypt awaiting repatriation to Bulgaria, but is still there. Kiltpin (talk) 09:47, 3 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edits

I have made a little change to the description of the Nine Sovereigns photo. Maymichael2 (talk) 17:08, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Honours

I question the veracity of his receiving the Albanian Order of Fidelity, because it was instituted in 1926 when Ferdinand ceased to be Bulgaria's sovereign and it was limited to a small number of Albanian recipients at any one time without being awardable to foreigners. On the list in this page the award is both undated and uncited.Cloptonson (talk) 19:54, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wife

Why his is third wife not listed in the box on the right side of the article page with the first two wives? 2600:1700:BC01:9B0:544F:E012:2320:EFE4 (talk) 20:12, 30 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]