Talk:Female infertility

Unencyclopaedic?

IMPOV, the text below which I moved here seems rather encyclopaedic - a more systematic study on the issue may be required as a reference before reinsertion. Mikael Häggström (talk) 12:24, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Because of media stories about celebrities having babies in their 40's, frequently without public knowledge that donor eggs (and thus somebody else's DNA) may have been used, even medical doctors have been mislead into believing they can wait longer than they should to have children and have had to see fertility specialists as a result: “I have doctors, I have PhDs, I have lawyers, I have very intelligent, educated women in my office every day who tell me, 'But I eat right and I exercise, and I'm healthy. How could I not be able to have a child?'”

References

Sherman Silbe claims

If nobody objects, I'm going to remove that paragraph - from : "Fertility specialist and book author Dr. Sherman Silber [18] states, in a message to women ...", his claims appear to be an obvious exaggeration i.e that 25% of women who are currently trying to conceive are infertile etc - the most cited figure is 10%- at most 15%; all his claims are also not based on any study/reliable source and appear to be just his opinion; they're also contradicted by most reliable sources; and more importantly this is giving undue weight (WP:UNDUE) to him. You can't just start quoting every person who has written a book about how to get pregnant. 188.25.163.145 (talk) 12:13, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

I've removed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.25.163.236 (talk) 12:32, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

i am not abal to have a child at age 40 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.104.11.4 (talk) 23:36, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Society and culture section

Hi, I'm looking to add to the society and culture section of this page. I'm a student at Rice University interested in health. If you have questions, comments, or concerns, let me know on my talk page. AllyBremer (talk) 02:27, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

New additions

Hi,

This is Ally, I've recently made some edits to the society and culture page on this article. I hope that the additions made will help contribute to an overall more balanced article. The edits I have made involve the world approach to female infertility, a growing global concern. I will continue to edit this page for my class, and hope that they will help to increase the rating and traffic to this site. I am open to suggestions and advice if you are willing to help and contribute. If you have questions, concerns, or comments, please let me know on my talk page. AllyBremer (talk) 22:37, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for a good start to developing this article!

In the section called "Polygamy and adultery", you start by saying "Men tend to find another wife when their first cannot produce a child, hoping by sleeping with more women that he will be able to produce his own child". Wikipedia is an international publication - could you narrow this statement or section to refer to a particular demographic? You say this happens in "African societies" - is this common in all of Africa? Also, can you think of a better title than "Polygamy and adultery" if you intend for this section to not have an international focus? My first thought coming to this was that this was not what I expected to be said for most of Africa. Thanks. Blue Rasberry (talk) 00:02, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks for the feedback! I've made some early changes, and will continue to revise for the next few weeks. AllyBremer (talk) 01:53, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

It seemed strange to me that this would only be an African phenomenon, and a little search shows that it's not. Books like this one suggest that at least thinking about adultery is a pretty common response in Western cultures, too. It may be that this is more common when couples know whose "fault" the infertility is. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:18, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

• I absolutely agree that this is not simply a "African phenomenon", and will correct the neutrality of my wording as appropriate. I also understand that this issue affects women around the world, and I am simply giving examples of specific locations. I will incorporate a global approach as I continue writing and editing. Thanks! AllyBremer (talk) 20:09, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Peer Review

The contributions made to this article are significant. However, I have a few sugguestions for improving these contributions. The "Prevalence" section provides information from only one source. This is very limited. The section would benefit greatly and gain credibility if it were to acknowledge claims and information from multiple sources. Additionally, the readability of the article could be improved by more clearly connecting claims and information, especially between paragraphs. Lastly, I would suggest proofreading your article, there are a couple of minor errors that will be easily caught and corrected by additional proofreading. Overall, a very impressive and well developed contribution. Brookeethleen (talk) 00:46, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Brookeethleen, thank you for your comments regarding my additions. I've added to the "prevalence section" to give more evidence, that was definitely needed! AllyBremer (talk) 02:00, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Comments and Suggestions

AllyBremer, You have made great revisions! I have a few suggestions for improvement:

• Under the Prevalence section, I think subsections regarding each region could be added to provide further clarification related to each area of prevalence. If possible, statistical evidence over each region would also be helpful.
• Also, I think the Society and Culture section could be split between something related to social expectations and another section for implications for women.

Other than that, you have made great additions to this article!

JOzuna25 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:38, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

JOzuna25, thanks for your feedback on my additions. I've added to the prevalence section and split it into subsections based on region to facilitate reading. I have considered splitting the society and culture section, but for now am going to maintain the subsections until I've added more information. Thanks again for your suggestions! AllyBremer (talk) 01:59, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

TA Comments

Hi AllyBremer! Great job researching for your contribution - you've added a lot of important info. You actually don't need to put in-text citations though, the footnote citations are sufficient. In your Social Stigma section, have you considered moving the wealth & inheritance paragraph to its own subsection? It's not necessary, but I thought that it doesn't mesh as well with the other info in that section and it's an important issue to highlight.

I'd also suggest you make some grammatical edits, particularly trying to convert passive voice to active voice (like "the ball was thrown to her" --> "he threw her the ball"). Also, the word "this" isn't a noun so make sure you use it as an adjective preceding a noun. Let me know if you have any questions! Best of luck with the edits! Nadhika99 (talk) 04:48, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Nadhika99, thank you for your comments on my additional sections. I've removed the in-text citations, and fixed the passive voice when I see it. I have also considered splitting the social stigma section, but am going to keep it together for now until I can add in more info to a subsection. Thank you for your feedback! AllyBremer (talk) 02:02, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

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Lacking information on the emotional effects to the male partner

It would be nice if the article also focused on the impact to the males in the relationships. As right now it seems to be only concerned with the impact to the female. A balance would be nice. As all of the options listed (polygamy, divorce, surrogacy, adoption, childless) are all traumatic decisions for the male too. Currently the prominent perspective to the negative consequences to males is they beat their barren wives or divorce them — which excludes any empathy as to the emotional turmoil they are left to express through those actions. Balupton (talk) 11:04, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

@Balupton:Might it be better to link to have infertility linked to as the main article for this and concentrate on dealing with it there? I think we'd be less likely to get a sex bias in that article and there's a lot of overlap of male infertility and female infertility in terms of psychological and social consequences. I'm unconvinced separate articles are warranted outside of discussing the physiology of infertility. PriceDL (talk) 13:53, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

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Wiki Education assignment: Epidemiology ENPH 450

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— Assignment last updated by Brownwahlee (talk) 08:02, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Here is where I made edits to the article. Please review my edits and makes necessary changes as you see fit. I have linked my additions and my references and links. I was not able to add my references so the article number and citations are linked.

Emotional impact of infertility treatment

Many women have reported finding treatment for infertility stressful and a cause of relationship difficulties with their partners. The fear of failure was the most important barrier to treatment. Females, in studied cases, typically experience more adverse effects of infertility and treatments than to males. [1] The psychological support is fundamental to limit the possibility to drop-out from infertility treatment and reduce the distress level which is strongly associated with lower pregnancy rates. In addition some medications (in particular clomifene citrate) used in the treatment have several side effects which may be an important risk factor for the development of depression.

=== Mental and psychological impact ===

Many infertile women tend to cope with immense stress and social stigma behind their condition, which can lead to considerable mental distress. The long-term stress involved in attempting to conceive a child and the social pressures behind giving birth can lead to emotional distress that may manifest as mental disease. Women with infertility might deal with psychological stressors such as denial, anger, grief, guilt, and depression. There can be considerable social shaming that can lead to intense feelings of sadness and frustration that potentially contribute to depression and suicide. The implications behind infertility bear huge consequences for the mental health of an infertile woman because of the social pressures and personal grief behind being unable to bear children. The range of psychological issues pertaining to infertility in women is vast and can include inferiority complex, stress with interpersonal relationships, and possibly major depression and or anxiety. With the impacts of infertility on social life, cultural significance, and psychological factors, “infertility has been classified as one of the greatest stressors of life.” [2]

=== Social stigma ===

Social stigma due to infertility is seen in many cultures throughout the world in varying forms. Often, when women cannot conceive, the blame is put on them, even when approximately 50% of infertility issues come from the man . In addition, many societies only tend to value a woman if she is able to produce at least one child, and a marriage can be considered a failure when the couple cannot conceive. The act of conceiving a child can be linked to the couple's consummation of marriage, and reflect their social role in society. This is seen in the "African infertility belt", where infertility is prevalent in Africa which includes countries spanning from Tanzania in the east to Gabon in the west. In this region, infertility is highly stigmatized and can be considered a failure of the couple to their societies. This is demonstrated in Uganda and Nigeria where there is a great pressure put on childbearing and its social implications. This is also seen in some Muslim societies including Egypt and Pakistan. In the United States, and all over the world, infertility and women’s infertility at large is an invisible yet debilitating disease that is stigmatized and looked down upon. But, in recent years many have begun to sue organizations for infertility insurance coverage, as the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) has recognized infertility as a disability. This however adds another stigmatization to women suffering from infertility as the word disability has a negative connotation in various world societies. [3]

== Epidemiology ==

Female infertility varies widely by geographic location around the world. In 2010, there was an estimated 48.5 million infertile couples worldwide, and from 1990 to 2010 there was little change in levels of infertility in most of the world. In 2010, the countries with the lowest rates of female infertility included the South American countries of Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia, as well as in Poland, Kenya, and Republic of Korea. The highest rate regions included Eastern Europe, North Africa, the Middle East, Oceania, and Sub-Saharan Africa. The prevalence of primary infertility has increased since 1990, but secondary infertility has decreased overall. Rates decreased (although not prevalence) of female infertility in high-income, Central/Eastern Europe, and Central Asia regions. Female infertility is prevalent across the globe. In 2013, the estimated prevalence of female infertility ranged from roughly 3% to 7% depending on the part of globe being followed. [4]

=== Marital role ===

Men in some countries may find another wife when their first cannot produce a child, hoping that by sleeping with more women he will be able to produce his own child. This can be prevalent in some societies, including Cameroon, Nigeria, Mozambique, Egypt, Botswana, and Bangladesh, among many more where polygamy is more common and more socially acceptable. In couples that are unsuccessful in conceiving, divorce rates are roughly 3.5 times higher than those of couples who are fertile. This was based off of those with female infertility. [4]

Link to the bibliography and references: https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:Schmidtj5997/Female_infertility/Bibliography&action=edit&section=2 Schmidtj5997 (talk) 03:36, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:Schmidtj5997/Female_infertility/Bibliography&action=edit&section=2 Schmidtj5997 (talk) 03:36, 13 December 2022 (UTC)