Talk:Faha Sultan

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The edit summary from this edit implies that there was a general consensus to remove images from these articles. There is not. There were several individuals who argued that images shouldn't be included in certain templates that were up for deletion. Some of those individuals explicitly said that images should be included separately from the templates.

Every article on a chemical element has an image of the periodic table. Relevant images make articles easier to read.

I would encourage the individual who implied that there was a consensus to remove these images to either leave the images as-is, or to actually establish a consensus.

It was agreed, back in March 2007, that Category:Guantanamo detainees known to have been released should supplement, not supplant Category:People held at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and Category:Yemeni extrajudicial prisoners of the United States. So I replaced them. Geo Swan (talk) 06:24, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and each chemical element is shown on the table because each element is uniquely represented in the tabel. That has zero to do with this propaganda picture here that show a random prisoner. This image does not show Faha Sultan the subject of this BLP.

Your representation of past discussion are wrong. The template for deletion has shown that the community does not want to have this picture pumped into hundreds of BLP's. Sure you can always argue against this if you like this picture should be included into all about 600 Guantanamo detainees. But you have failed so far to come up with compelling arguments.

Regarding the categories. You have failed to provide me with a link to the discussion where the community agrees to include Parent and child category at the same time. This is against common practice here on Wikipedia. We have discussed this before and you did not come up with an explanation or links to past discussions. IQinn (talk) 06:43, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I request you re-read the discussion. It does not support your assertions.

I request you refresh your memory on the English definition of propaganda.

The caption didn't claim the captive was Faha Sultan, so it is not necessary to establish this is Faha Sultan. The reading of the notice to the captives was one of the most important events of the captives' detention. It was literally unprecedented. The DoD was ordered to conduct the Tribunals by the SCOTUS. Geo Swan (talk) 22:57, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Let me assure you that routinely re-read discussions. No need for this request here and in the future discussions. If you disagree with my assertions than please provide counter arguments.

Let me assure you also that my memory regarding the definition of propaganda is clear and fresh.

I would like to ask you to limit your contributions to discussions to the relevant arguments and to the content topic and avoid arguing about the person. Recently and in the past you often came up with in my opinion overlong replies to posts. There have also been a number of other editors in the past who did not find your long replies not helpful. No hard feeling and i know you just want to make sure that everything is understood. But i do not think that your more than 10000 letter replies to discussions are necessary nor helpful. Sure i will answer the one you already wrote but i strongly suggest that you limit your replies to and acceptable size. Thank you for your understanding.

You may first explain what you mean by your first sentence. "I request you re-read the discussion. It does not support your assertions".

Cheers! IQinn (talk) 10:47, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

rough work

These links to the page numbers within the OARDEC documents may be useful to other contributors. Geo Swan (talk) 22:52, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CSRT allegations	41
ARB 1 allegations	58-59
ARB 2 allegations	8-10

Another useful source is the The Guantanamo Docket. It is an interactive database provided and updated by the New York Times. The database is searchable and has the Pentagon documents (CSRT and ARB) included. Additional documents and reliable New York Times research regarding the detainees at Guantanamo are also provided. This is the link to the documents and research regarding Faha Sultan. IQinn (talk) 10:47, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]