Talk:Ex Libris Group

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Introducing User: Rachel at Clarivate

Hello. My name is Rachel Klos. I am Senior Brand Manager, Brand Governance (formerly Managing Editor, Thought Leadership) at Clarivate. I created my user account in March 2022 to serve as Clarivate’s official representative on Wikipedia and to suggest updates to the Clarivate article. I am introducing myself here as Clarivate acquired Ex Libris in December 2021. With this declared conflict of interest in mind, I will work with Wikipedia's community of volunteer editors to propose Wikipedia-appropriate improvements to articles on Clarivate businesses. I intend to be a resource to assist Wikipedia editors in bringing articles on Clarivate up-to-date while also respecting Wikipedia's content policies and guidelines to help ensure articles remains a valuable encyclopedic resource to readers. Thank you. Rachel at Clarivate (talk) 16:01, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed changes to Ex Libris Group entry June 2024

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest was declined.

Specific text to be added or removed: 1 text change and 1 text removal regarding company location, due to acquisition by Clarivate.
Reason for the change: The company's acquisition that has been publicly announced has meant a change to its headquarters location.
References supporting change: Annotated inline within proposed text.

1. Text change: The following change is proposed to the first sentence of the article: Ex Libris is a global company, part of Clarivate, which is headquartered in London and listed on the New York Stock Exchange. ^[1] ^[2] ^[3] ^[4]

2. Text removal: The following content is proposed to be removed: Ex Libris Group is an Israeli software company that develops integrated library systems and other library software. Their headquarters is in the Malha Technology Park in southwestern Jerusalem. It has ten other offices around the world.

Thank you. Rachel at Clarivate (talk) 19:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Library Technology Guides: Ex Libris". Retrieved 2024-06-13.
^ "ProQuest bought by Clarivate in $5.3bn deal". Retrieved 2024-06-13.
^ "Our Story: About Ex Libris". Retrieved 2024-06-13.
^ "Financial Times: Clarivate PLC". Retrieved 2024-06-13.

Rachel at Clarivate (talk) 19:32, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm curious why you're requesting this change only to the Ex Libris article, and not to any other Clarivate subsidiaries. For example, ProQuest still lists the headquarters as Philadelphia, not London. Same thing with SequenceBase, which still lists the headquarters as Edison, NJ. Is there something different about Ex Libris' relationship with Clarivate that warrants the change being made only here? Dragon401k (talk) 01:56, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Between this request on 13 June and the latest edits on 18 June, a user who no longer exists "Mictam999" made a series of edits consistent with Clarivate's request. These all serve to obscure the actual headquarters location of Ex Libris, which, according to its social media, is still firmly in Jerusalem, not London. 173.49.247.47 (talk) 21:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'd take issue with the sources identified here and have subsequently reverted the edits. #1 is a tech guide that is clearly just displaying EL's local US affiliate for tech support, not making a claim about the company as a whole. #2 does not address where EL is headquartered, #3 is a primary source and #4 is about Clarivate alone. Sources already cited in the article make no equivocation about it being an Israeli company (eg [1]), and this appears to continue to be the case in press post-dating the 2015 acquisition: (2020, 2024). _signed,Rosguill ^talk 17:23, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Googling around for more post-2015 context:

Ex Libris self describes as "a global company, part of Clarivate, which is headquartered in London and listed on the New York Stock Exchange" , which incidentally makes the proposed text a copyright violation, though that doesn't address the question of where it's correct to say it's "Israeli" or where it's headquartered.
The Facebook page has Jerusalem, the Linkedin London.
In the context of 2024 articles on a pro-Palestine student protest both The Bristol Tab and Epigram call it an "Israeli company".
A 2021 press release by Ex Libris is marked as "Jerusalem".
Ctech gives "headquarters in Jerusalem" as of 2020.
The 2024 10-K for Clarivate has Ex Libris entities in Germany, Israel, the UK, and US and otherwise doesn't mention it.

I can't find a single source that isn't the company's website saying that they're anything but Israeli/headquartered in Jerusalem, so this is a question of whether this is the kind of matter where self-description ("our headquarters are X") overrides everything else. This doesn't seem like a completely ridiculous stance but I don't want to do it unilaterally. Rusalkii (talk) 00:34, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: See Rusalkii's comment. Encoded Talk 💬 14:57, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Library Technology Guides: Ex Libris". Retrieved 2024-06-13.

[2] "ProQuest bought by Clarivate in $5.3bn deal". Retrieved 2024-06-13.

[3] "Our Story: About Ex Libris". Retrieved 2024-06-13.

[4] "Financial Times: Clarivate PLC". Retrieved 2024-06-13.

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