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Japan not China

I'm not quite understanding this revert, "Sorry, but Ōmi is in Japan, not China". I was aware of this as I went to some trouble to link to the Hira Mountains. The general idea here was to show an example of the conventional snowy landscape in such series. Hockley (p 56) states "The Eight Views of Ōmi were transformed into the eight views of the drawing room or parlor (zashiki) through the use of mitate." Evening snow on Hira is one of the conventional landscapes in the Eight Views of Ōmi and so an example is appropriate to illustrate the parallel. Ideally, it would be better to have one which predates the parlour series but the Hiroshige file is all I've found here so far. Andrew D. (talk) 13:46, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone but Hockley claim the Ōmi prints as an influence on this series? I can't access those pages to see exactly what he says, but I haven't found a Japanese source yet that says so. Hayakawa mentions (p. 62) the Ōmi series as being one of many "Eight Views of" series that was inpired by the Xiaoxiang series, but doesn't say Harunobu was directly inspired by it—rather he was inspired by the "Eight Views" trend in series such as Eight Views of Kanazawa, Eight Views of Edo, Eight Views of Ōmi, etc. He does appear to have produced his own Ōmi Hakkei series, though (here's an example). Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:52, 8 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For another source which headlines on the Eight Views of Ōmi as the main inspiration for this stuff, please see The Eight Views of Ōmi and its Parodies. It's like Romeo and Juliet. This wasn't original to Shakespeare as he borrowed from an older story. But his version became the standard which then inspired works such as West Side Story. Andrew D. (talk) 00:23, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- But it doesn't actually say that Zashiki Hakkei was a parody of the Ōmi series—it says that Harunobu did his own Ōmi series (which he did, as well as an Eight Views of Edo series, and perhaps others). The sources are explicit, though, about which Zashiki Hakkei prints parody which Xiaoxiang paintings. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 00:30, 9 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]