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The supplied image confuses the difference between monophytism and miaphytism. Eutyches clearly taught that the human nature was subsumed in the divine nature. It's doubtful he actually thought the process was a coming together of two previously distinct natures as the examples he gave to illustrate his perspective indicate more a transformation of one thing into another such as: Moisture in the air turming to rain and water turning into ice. He was accused of beleiving that christ brought his flesh from heaven a charge he denied but which illustrates the direction of his teaching, that Christs body was not consubstantial with humanity.

I recommend the image be deleted and possibly replaced. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.25.109.197 (talk) 07:53, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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I happened across this quote, while reading "History of the Wars, Books III and IV (of 8), by Procopius, Translated by H. B. Dewing".

Available from Project Gutenberg:

It is referring to events in Byzantium around 471 AD.

"And Basiliscus, deserted by all, fled for refuge to the same sanctuary as formerly. And Acacius, the priest of the city, put him into the hands of Zeno, charging him with impiety and with having brought great confusion and many innovations into the Christian doctrine, having inclined toward the heresy of Eutyches."

The Oriental Orthodox Churches do not follow Eutyches and never have, and neither could they rightly be referred to as "Monophysite." (unsigned)

Correct, but read carefully the material you tried to blank out:

"After his death his doctrines obtained the support of the Empress Eudocia and made considerable progress in Syria. In the 6th century, they received a new impulse from a monk of the name of Jacob, who united the various divisions into which the Eutychians, or Monophysites, had separated into one church, which exists at the present time under the name of the Jacobite Church, and has few adherents today, but many adherents of the similar miaphysite doctrine in Armenia, Egypt and Ethiopia."

I think it could be clarified by adding a verb to the last clause, but this is not contradicting what you wrote above. ፈቃደ (ውይይት) 13:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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It's always difficult to figure out to what extent figures from the Christological Controversies (e.g. Nestorius, Apollinaris, Theodore, Eutyches, etc.) were actually unorthodox versus to what extent they were simply part of the Alexandrine-Antiochene politics, rivalry, etc. Harnack, however, is a terrible source for information on these questions. He's part of an era of German scholarship which was radical and saw conflict and Hegelian dialectic hiding behind every bush. While I kind of like Harnack personally, he always takes radical views (including on this question--especially as regards Cyril of Alexandria).

what does "recently" mean in this statement?

"His memory was kept alive by the Chalcedonians, who until recently used the term 'Eutychean' as a pejorative description of the non-Chalcedonians who in their turn accused the Chalcedonians of being Nestorians and dyophysite." How recent? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 03:40, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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