Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2000/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Sims2aholic8 (talk · contribs) 22:21, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 18:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

b. (citations to reliable sources):

c. (OR):

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

b. (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

This should be reviewed over the next two or so days! --K. Peake 18:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Christine Marchal-Ortiz needs to be sourced as executive supervisor in the body of the article~~
- Thanks for catching this! While this was covered in the "Website" field of the infobox, you're right that it should probably have also been included in prose. I've added this with additional sources to the Production section. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:29, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The second sentence feels like a run-on; this would work better if you wrote "it was presented by" with a preceding comma, then start a new sentence at the contest being held in Sweden
The lead is too much at four paragraphs; to fix this, make the winner sentence the last one of the second para and merge the fourth para with the current third one
I think the 195 points sentence would work better with the points mentioned after "total yet seen in the contest"
Last para looks good!

Wouldn't using "the 2000 contest" instead of "the event" suit the first para?
Not sure about the structure of the previous participations sentence; maybe it would work better to add respectively after the years then alongside at the very end
Remove wikilink on Christina Argyri
Pipe Stefán Hilmarsson to Sálin hans Jóns míns (band)
- I've replaced this with an interlanguage link to the Icelandic article on the subject; I believe repiping to the band would go against WP:NOTBROKEN, so hopefully this is a suitable compromise. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:01, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Table looks good!

I am confused with the group of countries part; the source lists the "Big Five" out yet you have used the "Big Four" here, any reason for this please or should it be used to Big Five?
- The "Big Four" became the "Big Five" in 2011 when Italy returned to the contest after a 13 year absence. I've now added an additional reference to cover this. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The returning countries are not sourced to [5]
- New ref added to cover this. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"by the Swedish public broadcaster Sveriges Television (SVT)." → "by SVT."
"next to the stage, and" → "next to the stage and"
"featuring all twenty-four" → "featuring all 24" per MOS:NUM
"of the contest, released through" → "of the contest, through" to avoid unneeded repetition of released
"the organisers, and followed" → "the organisers and followed"

"performance, and all performers" → "performance and all performers"
"this submission was required" start a new sentence at this point please since it is a run-on at the moment leading from the submission date into all this information
"of the twenty-four competing" → "of the 24 competing" per MOS:NUM

What exactly does [39] source in the first sentence please?
- The link in this ref has now been redirected to a different page. The archived version contains a section entitled "Your votes please", which is what it was meant to refer to. I've now set this ref as dead to ensure the right information is displayed when checking the ref.
"an exception, and" → "an exception and"
"prevents the televoting results" are you sure past tense shouldn't be used here?
- Good catch! Now changed. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"on 13 May" → "on 13 May 2000"

Img looks good!
[9][2][30] should be in numerical order
"of the twenty-four participating countries" → "of the 24 participating countries" per MOS:NUM
Add a full-stop after the third-place finish mention
"was not among of the pre-contest" → "was not among the pre-contest"
[5][6][2][50] should be in numerical order
[5][2] ditto
[6][5][51] should be in numerical order

The sentence about broadcasters sending to commentators needs to invoke a ref at the end, also what does the sending refer to if you can specify please?
- Thanks for the neutral insight on this part. I've now expanded this section with refs and to add information around how the commentators were typically situated on-site, with commentary booths constructed for their job at the back of the venue. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't the refs be centered in the tables?

Make this its own section since there is enough notes to go from a–l; looks good elsewhere!

On hold until all of the issues are fixed, been very busy so took me two days after opening this review! --K. Peake 21:29, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Kyle Peake: Thank you for the thorough review! I believe I have now covered all the points you raised above. On the two references you called out on WP:RS grounds, I have now removed these, as well as the Discogs source; in all cases I believe the information presented on the article is already sufficiently sourced without these three references. Please do let me know if there is anything else you feel requires work on this before you feel comfortable in passing as GA. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 12:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sims2aholic8 ✓ Pass now, immaculate work here and I will review another Eurovision contest for you too!!! --K. Peake 09:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]