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Malpighiales or Euphorbiales?

Would someone be kind enough to expatiate on the controversies concerning the classification of Euphorbiaceae. The order is variously given as Malpighiales and Euphorbiales. Why is this? Has any consensus occurred?I was hoping for some discussion in the article. NaySay 15:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The APG II (See: [1]) clearly assigns the Euphorbiaceae to the order Malpighiales : "Changes in Malpighiales mainly reflect assignment to this order of six previously unplaced families and the dismemberment of broadly circumscribed Flacourtiaceae and Euphorbiaceae". If there has been any confusion, it is because (according to AGP II) : "No molecular evidence supports Euphorbiaceae s.l. as monophyletic, and here they are divided into three families (as in Chase et al., 2002). Euphorbiaceae s.s. comprise the uniovulate Euphorbioideae, Crotonoideae and Acalyphoideae". JoJan 15:56, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Most spurges are herbs, but some, especially in the tropics, are shrubs or trees."

The article says "Most spurges are herbs, but some, especially in the tropics, are shrubs or trees." The word "most" is ambiguous. It could refer to number of species, could refer to biomass in the field, could mean "dominance" in a vegetation types, could refer to biomass or unit numbers in commercial use (e.g. Poinsettias in greenhouses), or some meaning of "most" that is unlikely to be what the word is interpreted to mean by a layperson reader.

The following is from a Poinsettia cultivation web page - "If cuttings are allowed to stretch prior to pinch and a hard pinch is performed the tissue on the lower stem is more mature and woody. This woody tissue does not break as well resulting in fewer shoots". This euphorbia is considered to be "woody", and from this perspective would considered a shrub, not an herb. It is possibly true that "most euphorbias a person is likely to see during their lifetimes are Poinsettia shrubs." In the sense of a Brave New World dystopian perspective, the following (dark humor) sentence might actually be true, "If 20th Century trends of ecosystem destruction, unregulated collection of wild plants in the field, and commercial use continue, most Euphorbias will be Poinsettias".

Some clarification is needed as to what is meant by "most" (in this otherwise valid sentence), with RS sources. FloraWilde (talk) 15:40, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Why does "Tártago" redirect here?

Not mentioned in article. Equinox ◑ 23:07, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Equinox: Good question. Based on this source it should either be a disambiguation page (but it's not an English word) or deleted. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:49, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Peter coxhead: I found it while researching the word for Wiktionary. So it might be a (possibly rare or archaic) English word for a certain plant in this family. See e.g. [2]. (I have to say, it doesn't seem to have any common/frequent English use, so I'm going to drop it. You can do what you want with the redirect.) Equinox ◑ 00:30, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]