Talk:Ethnic groups in Thailand

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Phunoi people

Are there also Phunoi people in Thailand? Badagnani (talk) 17:19, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Better map

This map is from the 1970s. THere has been considerable movement and population change since then. An updated map would be good. FOr example Thailand's second largest group Hmong are not even named as such on the map! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.190.203.196 (talk) 16:28, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Eurasians

Some discussion of this group would be welcome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.77.204.28 (talk) 15:55, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Languages of Thailand"

Shouldn't this be titled "Languages of Thailand"? The groups that are presented are linguistic, not ethnic. Kortoso (talk) 18:10, 22 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Siameseness/Nativeness

While acknowledging the contributions made by https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Somsak_Ung, I have revised his contributions based on the principles that Siamese has not been an ethnic group for over 75 years, while 'nativeness' to Thailand is a heavily contested concept, with the 'Thai' arriving relatively late in Thailand. Johncdraper (talk) 09:59, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This is a follow-up that as of sig datestamp, Somsak_Ung is persisting in his edits, which I am reverting, agf. I am also removing mentions of 'origin' except where non-Thai 'origin' is firmly established, e.g., with the Chinese. This is in line with policy on other pages on ethnic groups of a country.

Notice of Unattributed Contributions by Somsak_Ung to Ethnic Groups of Thailand Page

This is a notice flagging that Somsak_Ung is making unattributed contributions to this page, i.e., contributions without citations, as can be seen on the Revision History page. The user is also not summarizing his edits. I advise Somsak_Ung to check how to do citing sources on Wikipedia: citations. I am at the moment exercising discretion but mainly deleting the user's unattributed contributions. Somsak_Ung is also making unattributed assertions about the existence of a contemporary 'Siamese' ethnic group. The Siamese were an ethnic group of Thailand according to 19th century race theory,^[1]. However, they are not now. They are not even recognized as such in the official Royal Thai Government submission listing ethnic communities, the 2011 ICERD submission.^[2] I am at the moment assuming good faith (agf) by Somsak_Ung but deleting his contributions on this issue. I am copying this notice to his talk page, where I see he has been flagged once for unattributed contributions.Johncdraper (talk) 17:04, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^ Streckfuss, David (1993). "The mixed colonial legacy in Siam: Origins of Thai racialist thought, 1890–1910". Autonomous Histories, Particular Truths: Essays in the Honor of John R. W. Smail. Madison, WI: Centre for Southeast Asian Studies. pp. 124–153.
^ International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination; landforms a growing larger by the second Reports submitted by States parties under article 9 of the Convention: Thailand (PDF) (in English and Thai). United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination. 28 July 2011. Retrieved 8 October 2016.

Lao

I could not find a reference for "Lao" being an umbrella group of 15,08 million people (24.9 percent), consisting of Thai Lao, Thai Loei, Lao Lom, Lao Wiang/Klang, Lao Khrang, Lao Ngaew, and Lao Ti. This is not stated in the CERD report. The report lists these groups separately, but does not group them together (other than all of them belonging to the Tai language family, but so do Central Thai, Southern Thai, Yuan etc.) and does not use "Lao" as an umbrella term. Is there a different source or is it WP:original research? --RJFF (talk) 12:36, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I have now dealt with this with a secondary source.Johncdraper (talk) 12:56, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Streckfuss, David (1993). "The mixed colonial legacy in Siam: Origins of Thai racialist thought, 1890–1910". Autonomous Histories, Particular Truths: Essays in the Honor of John R. W. Smail. Madison, WI: Centre for Southeast Asian Studies. pp. 124–153.

[CERD/C/THA/1-3-2] International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination; landforms a growing larger by the second Reports submitted by States parties under article 9 of the Convention: Thailand (PDF) (in English and Thai). United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination. 28 July 2011. Retrieved 8 October 2016.

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