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This article was nominated for deletion on 21 May 2008. The result of the discussion was keep.

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move' both. JPG-GR (talk) 16:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Estevan → Estevan (disambiguation) — I think it's a bit unreasonable to have a dab page here just because of another very small town, a lighthouse, and a photographer (who would be searched by their full name anyways). Also proposing to move Estevan, Saskatchewan to Estevan in it's place because it is bigger than the town in Belize. —-Royalguard11(T·R!) 18:05, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

Support obviously. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 18:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support. All the other things would always be searched for by their full names. Estefan, Saskatchewan is the only Estefan proper. (I'm not even sure a dab page is needed at all.) Sam Staton (talk) 20:31, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From WP:DAB: "Do not add links that merely contain part of the page title (where there is no significant risk of confusion). Only add links to articles that could use essentially the same title as the disambiguated term. Disambiguation pages are not search indices." I think there is grounds for the disambig page to be deleted. Sam Staton (talk) 22:25, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support. None of the other articles are about something named "Estevan"; rather, they are about something which name includes Estevan. Mind matrix 21:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral about moving Estevan to Estevan (disambiguation). I support a move from Estevan, Saskatchewan to Estevan. I agree with Sam Staton and don't think a dab page is needed. Estevan, Saskatchewan is the only thing on the dab page named Estevan. DoubleBlue (Talk) 19:24, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't really sure what to do with this page. I just figured I'd start by saying move this page somewhere, and put Estevan, Saskatchewan here. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 01:11, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose move Estevan, Saskatchewan to Estevan. It's a variation of a very common first name. Neutral regarding moving Estevan to Estevan (disambiguation).--Qyd (talk) 01:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And exactly how many people with articles on the English Wikipedia have this particular variation of the name? Two? -Royalguard11(T·R!) 01:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So far, two. And dozens more of Esteban (in modern Spanish language, "v" and "b" are often interchanged, as there is no pronunciation difference). --Qyd (talk) 15:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but disambiguation pages shouldn't list people with that first name. See e.g. David (disambiguation), where no first-name Davids (eg David Jason, David Bellamy) are listed. Nobody ever searches for someone by their first name. I suggest we follow the precedent for David and put a hat note at the top of the page. Sam Staton (talk) 15:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So why is Esteban not about the name then? There isn't even a dab page for it. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 21:58, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It should be, it's wrong as it is now. As we all now, wikipedia is a work in progress. This, however, is no reason to make the same kind of mistake here. --Qyd (talk) 02:06, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it should be, actually. From WP:DAB: "Only add links to articles that could use essentially the same title as the disambiguated term." There is no way that the article Stephen would ever have the title "Esteban". Sam Staton (talk) 13:57, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Conforms to WP:CANSTYLE. As for the DAB page, my inclination is to keep it and to move it, as proposed, although technically it isn't necessarily needed. Skeezix1000 (talk) 17:31, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.