Talk:Ernest T. Campbell/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Whiteguru (talk · contribs) 05:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Starts GA Review; the review will follow the same sections of the Article. --Whiteguru (talk) 05:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lede

Is it reasonably well written?

I am not sure that pastorates is a word. Not in international usage of the term ministry. Perhaps appointments might be a better choice of word.

Pastorate (plural pastorates) is a word, meaning "the office or period of office of a pastor" per Google or Webster's dictionary, but I've changed it as suggested so as not to confuse or perplex the average reader, as well as expanding the Lede a bit. — JGHowes ^talk 04:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Early Years and Education

Is it reasonably well written?

Well scribed. The reference to the A.B. degree does not tell the reader what degree or academic award this is.

I've now spelled-out and wikilinked AB degree. — JGHowes ^talk 04:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As a Presbyterian minister

Pennsylvania churches

Is it reasonably well written?

I am not sure of this usage of the word pastored . One serves as a minister, one minsters. Ordination to the Presbyterate is not served as pastored .

I've now wikilinked Ordination#Protestantism to clarify that in the Presbyterian church, ordination as "pastor" is one of the threefold orders of ministry. However, its use as a past-tense verb may be confusing, so I've reworded the article accordingly to only use "pastor" once, as a noun to avoid repetitiveness. JGHowes ^talk 04:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

First Presbyterian Church, Ann Arbor, Michigan

Is it reasonably well written?

Link 15 is an excellent resource.
ditto pastored . One serves as a minister, one minsters. Ordination to the Presbyterate is not served as pastored .

Riverside Church, New York City

Is it reasonably well written?

I was ordained at this Church.
This is a good section, well scribed.
Finishing with Bicentennial Day is a good flourish.

Later years, legacy and death

Is it reasonably well written?

A good summary of a life well lived.

References

Is it reasonably well written?

Examined. All links operative

External Links

Is it reasonably well written?

Noted

End Matter

Is it is Broad in its coverage?

For an ordained minister of religion and his appointments in different states, and his rise and rise to prominence as a preacher - on radio - and that the pulpit, this is good, netural POV coverage.

Is it Verifiable with no original research?

Yes, all reference verify content in sections

Does the article meet notability guidelines?

Yes, article meets general notability guidelines along with those given at WP:CLERGYOUTCOMES

Does it follow WP:NPOV Neutral Point of View?

Quite so.

Is it stable?

This article came to life on 31 January 2021.
To date, the article has had 2797 page views
The page has had 21 edits from 8 editors

Top editors are

    * JGHowes
    * all remaining editors have 1 edit each.

It is illustrated by images ?

There are 3 images on the page, appropriately placed.
Image of Campbell is non free with fair use rationale: source = Archive photo from the 1960s at https://www.trcnyc.org/history/
Image of Broadway Presbyterian Church is attributed to GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2
Image of Riverside Church Tower is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International
All images are appropriate to the article.

Overall

Comment: This article was submitted to DYK on 14 February. I am under the impression that DYK nomination is normally given after GA Review??
A well scribed article of an important Presbyterian minister in the life of the Presbyterian Church in the US.

Conclusion

Some language issues are raised. May we discuss?
The A.B. degree ?

--Whiteguru (talk) 03:39, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JGHowes: Your consideration of the abovementioned issues is requested. --Whiteguru (talk) 02:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your review. I joined Riverside while Rev. Campbell was senior minister and he made a profound impression on me. I've replied above to the review and have made some article edits accordingly (see diffs since GA review). The DYK was submitted as a "New" article only, not as a (potential) GA. JGHowes ^talk 04:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JGHowes:Many thanks for your edits, all of which are appropriate and accepted. (And thanks for reaching out to the average reader...) This is the only article where I have a personal connection to the Church mentioned therein. And yes, most certainly Rev. Campbell was an inspiring preacher and made a profound impression upon many, yourself included. You were lucky, then. --Whiteguru (talk) 04:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Passed