Talk:Eric Braeden

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I recall him being in some episodes of "Twelve O'Clock High". Does anybody have any info on this?

There is a "Twelve O'Clock High" episode guide at the following address:

www.fscwv.edu/users/rheffner/b17/tohguide.shtml

If you have trouble with it, just google "Twelve O'Clock High Eric Braeden" and it should be the first or second entry.

Hans Jörg Gudegast

Is his name still Hans Jörg Gudegast or did he legally change his name to Eric Braedon? 76.69.123.194 (talk) 17:44, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ditching HIMYM

According to Neil Patrick Harris, Eric Braeden will not reprise his role as Robin Scherbatsky Sr. because he feels the role is not substantial enough for him. I think this should be noted in his article--150.212.72.23 (talk) 18:40, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It IS. Moncrief (talk) 18:48, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Jewish Father, Son Named Christian?

The article states that Gudegast/Braeden competed on a sports team made up of Jewish players, yet he has a son named Christian. Is he Jewish? If not, why was he playing on a Jewish team? Is he a Jewish man married to a Christian woman? In the Jewish tradition the determination of whether one is Jewish comes down from the mother, not the father. If the mother is Christian it would make sense to have a son named Christian. If both mother and father are Jewish it would seem odd to have a son named Christian. I am not an anti-Semite, just curious about this.2600:1700:7F11:6420:8A8:5E36:423E:806A (talk) 16:46, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is easily cleared up by simply reading the cited source (https://archive.today/20160428064100/https://sports.vice.com/ca/article/los-angeles-forgotten-jewish-soccer-dynasty). There we find quotes like these:

"The German-born Braeden, who came to America to become an actor, says he originally played on the Maccabis because "they promised us some money for each game." Soon, he says, "I began to realize that I was the token German on a Jewish team."

"The Maccabi team was not exclusively Jewish; major contributors included Braeden, who scored the winning semifinal goal on the way to their first US Open Cup championship, Chon Miranda of Mexico, and Tony Douglas, a native of Trinidad and Tobago."

"We players played for a lot of different teams," Meyer says. "Sometimes we got a little more money from this team or that team, and it didn't matter very much."

It mattered more for Braeden. "It became a statement," he says of playing on a Jewish team, given his own heritage. "I did not work with any prejudices in Germany in the years I lived there, and not one single time did I hear an anti-Semitic remark. Yet, coming here and working in this industry, I of course heard bad things about Germans. I said: 'I'll be damned, I am not like that.'" Knuthove (talk) 17:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wilhelm Gustloff

Does anybody know where the claims that Braeden survived the sinking of the MV Wilhelm Gustloff come from? Reliable or not, they must come from somewhere, and they are spreading.

Here's what I could gather. Some parts of the internet are full of claims that he was on board: Example Twitter post (337 shares, 13K likes), example YouTube comment (3200+ likes; most liked comment on a video with 1.1 million views), example TikTok video (115K views, 8000+ likes) The earliest mention of this that I could find is a post from 2022 on the very popular r/titanic subreddit.[1] The Reddit post provides no supporting evidence, and none of the dozens of people who commented on it seem to have asked for a source. The post has since been closed for new comments, so I cannot ask for one myself. There are quite a few books that also repeat the claim. The ones I've looked at are all recent publications, and none gives an original source (example from August 2023, example from March 2024).

I would just put this down to unsubstantiated rumors, but it has made it on several different Wikipedias, which crosses a line in my opinion. Of those I have checked (and I didn't look at all of them), the Dutch Wikipedia article includes this claim since September 2023,[2] without a source. The Spanish Wikipedia does so since February 2024,[3] pointing to Braeden's 2017 autobiography I'll be damned (but without a page number). The Titanic Fandom wiki gives the same source since January 2024.[4]

So, I went on to borrow a digital copy of that book. Low and behold, I cannot find anything about the Wilhelm Gustloff in there -- or about the sinking of any ship (except Titanic, of course)! Braeden does describe what he remembers about the end of the war (the family lived in Kiel at that time), but a bombing of the city is the most dramatic event he mentions. What reason would a 4-year-old child from Kiel have had to be on a ship carrying refugees from East Prussia? After the book's publication, a few news articles reported on his father's membership in the Nazi party.[5] None of them cared to mention Braeden's alleged involvement in a maritime disaster. If I had seen this on the English Wikipedia, I'd have immediately removed it, but I don't know the policies of the Dutch and Spanish versions.

I suggest we try to locate an original source, or see if we can demonstrate that this is an unfounded fabrication, and then help out those other Wikipedias to get rid of it. Renerpho (talk) 03:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC) I have notified WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers and WikiProject Military history. Renerpho (talk) 03:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed that this was mentioned on the English Wikipedia article until literally a few days ago,[6] and was removed by Enctitanica with the edit summary: The story that he survived the Wilhelm Gustloff as a child is not mentioned in his biography as stated here and is entirely false. The addition of this by an unregistered user in June 2018[7] predates the earliest mention I had found by a number of years. Is this a WP:HOAX?! In light of this, I went ahead and have now removed this from the Dutch and Spanish articles. Renerpho (talk) 04:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]