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have started rewriting this article, more to do but work beckons:)Coolabahapple (talk) 06:49, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Possible promotional content

There seems to be a lot of WP:COATRACK content in the article. In particular, it seems there are multiple mentions of books which have won awards. However, other articles about publishers such as Bloomsbury Publishing do not mention it. I propose the same should be followed here. I am currently removing it. If anyone objects, please post here. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:54, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Adsfghj: You might wish to comment here since you added all the material. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:56, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Lemongirl942: Compare this article fairly, to similar small, independent publishers like Tartarus Press and Reaktion Books, both of which mention awards won. By the way, please substantiate the Conflict of Interest. I have no relation to Epigram Books.

@Adsfghj: A publisher is a publisher, regardless of the fact that it is small and independent. Just because other pages have such content doesn't mean we need to have it here. The prizes went to the books. If it went to the publisher it should be mentioned come here. For reference "Monsters, Miracles & Mayonnaise" had a mention about Epigram, which is why I didn't remove it. In any case, you need to add third party/secondary citations to support the content. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:16, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Adsfghj: I never said that you are related. The COI is applicable to the article because of a particular contributor. It is not you. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:17, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Lemongirl942: Do delete the similar content on Tartarus Press, Math Paper Press and Reaktion Books then. You should realise that all creative content providers share in the credit for awards won. For eg., "Miramax Pictures won 8 awards at the Oscars" -- it was the films awarded, but publishers/producers share in the credit.

@Adsfghj: I understand that they do share credit. However this doesn't go on a Wikipedia article about the publisher; at least not in detail, unless there are multiple sources to prove notability. Mentioning a couple of well known books in the lead is perhaps OK, but it is best not to mention the prizes won by each and every book in detail as it violates WP:UNDUE. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 23:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This article can be improved however. For instance, according to me something which deserves to be mentioned is the "Epigram Books Fiction Prize" which has been cited multiple times by the press [1]. Another notable event which can be mentioned is the withdrawal of the grant by NAC for the graphic novel by Sonny Liew [2]. I will add the content in the coming days. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 23:47, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]