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Article Revamp

I am going to clean up this article so that it only pertains to information related to Envoy (formerly American Eagle Airlines). For example, the history section will only contain information for Envoy/AEA from its inception in 1998. The incidents and accidents section will only contain those that were specifically operated by Envoy/AEA. All other information will move to the American Eagle (airline brand) page.--Kmk1011 (talk) 20:28, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Executive merge

I sugested the merge, because, quite frankly, almost all the information on the Executive Airlines article is already in this article. The only information not on this page is the infobox. Is that really enough to keep the Executive page? American Eagle Airlines and Executive Airlines both make up the American Eagle system, so I really don't see a reason to keep them separate. Kimmykun 01:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. American Eagle and Executive are still separate airlines, even though they are both part of AMR. I feel that they should maintain separate articles, though the part on Executive should be limited to what is relevant to that company. -- Hawaiian717 15:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there.

For simplicity it would be nice to merge these together however......being to different airlines with seperate operating certificates... I do not think it would be appropriate.

Also from what I recall AMR gains distinct tax advantages by maintaining this as a Puerto Rican company.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.148 (talk) 02:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To correct American Eagle Airlines should really be titled as American Eagle Holdings Corporation and have American Eagle and Executive Airlines listed as subsidiaries under American Eagle Holdings Corporation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.26.148 (talk) 22:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

^^Agreed. ArmoredPersonel 19:30, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Keep American airlines (major) and american eagle seprate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daven200520 (talk • contribs) 04:14, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I think that there should be an Executive section on the AE page. Then just demolish the Executive page. If it's the same info, there is no reason to keep them both. Basketball110 17:15, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

oPPOSE/rEJECT. American Eagles Holding company is just a shell, just like AMR Corporation, UAL Corporation, and US Airways Group. They aren't in the business or operating aircraft; they exist for the mere purpose of owning a bunch of diverse holdings, of which the primary subsidiary is an airline!--Inetpup (talk) 16:28, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose American Eagle Airlines now encompasses the operations of both American Eagle Airlines, Inc. and Executive Airlines, Inc., but Executive has its own identity, and a history prior to joining AMR, which deserves to be preserved. Dusty.crockett (talk) 16:38, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AMR Spinoff or Sell

I see much reason to tell about the reported spinoff or selling of American Eagle by AMR. I'm not quite sure where to get the citation for that. Any ideas? Basketball110 17:13, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How about:
- this one [1]?
- or this one [2]? --Inetpup (talk) 23:30, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's a moot point now.Dusty.crockett (talk) 16:40, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I edit a St. Maarten newsletter with 117,000 readers, many of whom use American Eagle flights (Executive Airlines) from SJU to St. Maarten. Merging data on both AMR subsidiaries will cause monumental confusion and we think merging is a bad idea. (Source: JMB Communications, Massachusetts). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.124.72 (talk) 04:30, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - As atated before, they are actually two different airlines with two different opperating certificates.Stangboy7 (talk) 20:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flagship Airlines

There is a link in this article labled "Flaghsip Airlines" which must not be watched on a regular basis by anyone, but if you could click that and address the issues presented there and participate in the discussion that has been started that would be great. Thanks everybody! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.186.4.2 (talk) 04:36, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Executive Airlines does not serve Mexico

Check the schedule -- MIA-CZM service was cancelled. Dusty.crockett (talk) 14:10, 5 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Split Envoy and American Eagle articles

Envoy is the new name of the AMR company owned regional airline. The American Eagle brand name will still be used by all American Airlines' regional airline partners including Envoy. An article for American Eagle should be split from this one.Janus657 (talk) 12:24, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree but the American Eagle page should not use American Eagle Airlines since AEA was the company name RicHicks (talk) 17:04, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly! American Eagle (banner carrier brand)

(MQ) American Eagle Airlines became (MQ) Envoy166.137.209.154 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wait! Don't do it! They're the same airline! It's not a good idea. sparkyb10123 —Preceding undated comment added 15:49, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Envoy is American Eagle Airlines' new name so this article is talking about one company and their history. There is no need to split this article. There is a separate article for the American Eagle Brand already. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/American_Eagle_%28airline_brand%29 MGAAfan (talk) 07:05, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally Envoy Destinations

Someone placed a redirect upon American Eagle destinations which previously included destinations for; Executive, SkyWest, (MQ), Republic, et. all.

This redirect is in error and needs to be correct for the editor has unintentionally i am sure, confused the brand with the airline, which has often been the case with a (MQ) the airline, and American Eagle the brand 38.111.151.140 (talk) 19:14, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to request it to be moved back, you must do so at WP:Requested moves. ... discospinster _talk 23:09, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally

United Express, Delta Connection, and US Airways Express have their own pages, thus... 38.111.151.140 (talk) 22:27, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think we are

Getting in a series of redirects

we need 1) Envoy (airline)

2) Envoy destinations

3) American Eagle destinations (brand)

Similar how we have Delta Connection destinations US Airways Express destinations United Express destinations

American Eagle - the brand subcontracted out to regional airlines is just like these above, to SkyWest, Republic, Chautauqua, Envoy et. al. and we do need a separated destinations page for American Eagle

There was actually an

(MQ) Simmmons Airlines - predecessor of Envoy and the merged Eagle
(MQ) American Eagle Airlines - FAA certificated succeessor carrier of the merged Eagles / Flagship, Simmons
(MQ) Envoy - the rebranded successor carrier.

Sure is hard getting everyone on the same editing page!!! (: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.111.151.140 (talk) 23:20, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article rename

The new name is not in effect yet, it won't officially be called "Envoy" until March 2014 (http://www.upi.com/Business_News/2014/01/15/American-Eagle-Airlines-to-get-a-new-name-Envoy/UPI-13481389815252/). American Airlines's website still lists American Eagle flights as still "operated by American Eagle Airlines" I believe. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 07:38, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That is correct. The story on the radio said that the name change won't be official until the FAA approves it.Janus657 (talk) 20:10, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, but we need to decide whether to split the article or not eventually. Ernestnywang (talk) 03:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The article was already split by User:Clumsyone. A new article was created for the American Eagle brand to avoid confusion for the airline name. 68.119.73.36 (talk) 23:00, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need for two articles, as the company is the same. Simply move the article to Envoy in March. Tofutwitch11 ^(TALK) 20:53, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

209.112.168.106 (talk) 18:38, 10 March 2014 (UTC) Wrong MQ is Envoy / American Eagle Airlines[reply]

MQ is not Republic, SkyWest, ExpressJet or anyone else doing business as American Eagle the banner carrier (Commercial Aviation).

Is it possible to remove '(airline)' from the title and have the article just called "Envoy"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.104.166 (talk) 23:37, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article should be renamed "Envoy Air" as per www.envoyair.com, www.aa.com, with the removal of '(airine)' in the title. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.194.119.217 (talk) 19:42, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just moved the article to "Envoy Air" per [3]; I inadvertently omitted the explanation due to hitting the enter key instead of the quote key. -- Hawaiian717 (talk) 17:48, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the numerous lowercase renderings "envoy" which are not consistent with the airline's use of "Envoy" and "Envoy Air" as the textual representation of the name. The lowercase "envoy" is only in the graphical logo. Jpp42 (talk) 03:56, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Number of ERJ145s

Do we have a source for the number of E145s in the fleet (not counting the E140s). The airfleets.net source given only lists 59, not 71.Mirza Ahmed (talk) 14:09, 10 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]