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The poo-poo brain comment is largely useless...Sovbeos (talk) 15:52, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. It should probably be sourced, though. --Muna (talk) 10:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poo-poo brain? Jamestttgrays (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The picture at the top of the article is pretty much useless -- what is it trying to say? I took an intro neuroscience class in college, and I have no idea what the pic is trying to convey. 70.168.11.227 (talk) 22:26, 23 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The picture should be captioned more appropriately I think, but it is relevant; It shows the layers of musculature, innervation, and mucosa from exterior to interior. 136.152.139.99 (talk) 23:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Importantly, the article mentions first (with reference) that there are only 1 tenth as many ENS cells as spinal nervous system cells, then says there are more ENS "nerve cells" (imprecise term...) than cells in the spinal system. "nerve cells" should be clarified, and to my understanding these figures are contradictory. 136.152.139.99 (talk) 23:27, 25 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Part of Autonomic or not?

The Autonomic_nervous_system article says that "The enteric nervous system is sometimes considered part of the autonomic nervous system, and sometimes considered an independent system." This article says (at present) that it is part of it -- full stop. Sounds to me like one or the other should be corrected. But me, I don't know 'bout these things. --Keithonearth (talk) 04:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The several related articles ( autonomic, ortho-, para- and enteric) disagree on how many divisions there are in the autonomic nervous system. The autonomic talk page asserts that enteric is its own system, not a part of the autonomic system. Somebody who knows more than I needs to resolve the inconsistencies in all of these articles. Jeffryfisher (talk) 19:51, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's hard to work out where this confusion has come from. For almost 100 years the enteric has been considered part of the autonomic nervous system. For example, Langley (1921) divided the system into sympathetic, parasympathetic and enteric divisions.^[1] This is still the definition used in textbooks specializing the in the Autonomic Nervous System, such as that by Jänig.^[2] Those at the International Society for Autonomic Neuroscience 2017 would have read or heard about enteric neuroscience amongst talks on the other parts of the autonomic nervous system,^[3] and Autonomic Neuroscience: Basic and Clinical accepts articles on the enteric nervous system. So, it is an established part of the autonomic nervous system, but can act without external regulation and is extraordinarily complex (in terms of local circuits). Klbrain (talk) 12:31, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Additional reference: the scholarpedia review of the enteric nervous system, written by an enteric specialist, also classes it as part of the autonomic nervous system (start of second paragraph there). Klbrain (talk) 18:14, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Langley, J.N. (1921). The Autonomic Nervous System Part 1. Cambridge: W. Heffer.
^ Jänig, Wilfrid (2008). Integrative action of the autonomic nervous system : neurobiology of homeostasis (Digitally printed version. ed.). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 13. ISBN 978052106754-6.
^ "ISAN2017・JSNR2017". www.isan2017.org. Retrieved 8 October 2017.

Missing subject

I left a tag in a sentence under the function section. The topic has disappeared, and it's missing from all the versions I checked.

173.25.54.191 (talk) 20:24, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Review

... in Gastroenterology of enteric glia. Seems useful doi:10.1053/j.gastro.2014.09.040 JFW | T@lk 21:13, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Suffering from alzheimers

--Lexikon-Duff (talk) 15:10, 2 April 2015 (UTC) Moin, can someone write that in the article? The enteric ns also suffers from alzheimers.[reply]

Mood

There needs to be a section on the recent findings related to mood and this system. (No, I'm not doing it myself. Someone else can fix it, this is the limit of my aid.) Innomen (talk) 21:06, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Innomen: Which effects of mood are you referring to, and do you have a source? Klbrain (talk) 09:37, 22 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Klbrain: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0889159109001962 and https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C18&q=enteric+nervous+system+and+mood&btnG= (Not trying to be snarky, trying to make it easier to browse.)Innomen (talk) 15:42, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Innomen, for that key review; agree that it's appropriate to have a section on this. Klbrain (talk) 08:06, 29 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Langley, J.N. (1921). The Autonomic Nervous System Part 1. Cambridge: W. Heffer.

[2] Jänig, Wilfrid (2008). Integrative action of the autonomic nervous system : neurobiology of homeostasis (Digitally printed version. ed.). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 13. ISBN 978052106754-6.

[3] "ISAN2017・JSNR2017". www.isan2017.org. Retrieved 8 October 2017.

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