Talk:Enriquillo–Plantain Garden fault zone

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Port Royal earthquake

Note that this is the same fault that the Port Royal article editors are attributing the earthquake that destroyed that port in 1692. The description doesn't seem to run sufficiently far to justify that claim. Student7 (talk) 15:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Could you clarify what you see as the problem with the article. Also I presume that you mean the 1692 Jamaica earthquake rather than the Port Royal article, which doesn't mention the fault at all. Mikenorton (talk) 15:35, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Further reply at Talk:1692 Jamaica earthquake. Mikenorton (talk) 15:46, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks fine! I withdraw my comments. Student7 (talk) 21:48, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the move request was: Page moved, lose the spaces but keep the dash. Born2cycle (talk) 23:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

Enriquillo – Plantain Garden fault zone → Enriquillo-Plantain Garden fault zone — Recently moved in violation of WP:DASH. According to WP:DASH, "An en dash is not used for a hyphenated name (Lennard-Jones potential, named after John Lennard-Jones) or an element that lacks lexical independence (the prefix Sino- in Sino-Japanese trade)." Searching Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL reveals that Enriquillo-Plantain Garden fault zone is in fact a hyphenated name, as used by geologists. Abductive (reasoning) 17:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the extra spaces around the dash/hyphen are not found in the sources. Abductive (reasoning) 18:23, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose As explained in WP:DASH:

En dashes... indicate disjunction and disjunctive en dashes are unspaced, except when there is a space within either one or both of the items (the New York – Sydney flight)

In this case, the disjunction is between two separate geographical entities with two separate names: Lake Enriquillo in the Dominican Republic and the Plantain Garden River in Jamaica. Consequently, this is the same as the example given in the MoS or (e.g.) Mexico – United States border and should be separate by an ndash. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:20, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is the editor who moved the article.) Abductive (reasoning) 18:21, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly false reasoning. The fault is not called the "Lake Enriquillo – Plantain Garden River fault zone", it has its own name, a name created by geologists and one using no spaces and a hyphen. There is no "disjunction" between Enriquillo and Plantain Garden. Abductive (reasoning) 18:28, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support The fault zone was originally named by Paul Mann and others in 1984 [1], as the Enriquillo–Plantain Garden Fault Zone. In more recent papers, geologists (including Mann some of the time - in one paper he uses an ndash then a space and then a hyphen, all on the same page) have changed to using a hyphen, so that appears to be the current usage. You could argue for the ndash, but not with spaces. Mikenorton (talk) 19:53, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'd keep the dash (for clarity), but lose the spaces (MOS seems out of step with usage here).--Kotniski (talk) 09:30, 6 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Cause of the Haiti earthquake?

I reverted a recent edit that added a AP report on a conference talk that suggested that another fault was responsible for the earthquake rather than the Enriquillo fault. We know that the earthquake was a result of left lateral slip along a fault that at least runs parallel to the Enriquillo fault, so it's likely to form part of the fault zone, if not the specific fault plane. When and if the new study is published, that would be the time to review its inclusion, I reckon. Mikenorton (talk) 19:25, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Information now added as paper has been published - earthquake caused by displacement on associated structures, not main fault plane. Mikenorton (talk) 09:17, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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