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On 7 July 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Consort Kiritsubo. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move to Kiritsubo Consort. JPG-GR (talk) 00:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lady Kiritsubo (mother of Hikaru Genji) is a second class concubine of Emperor. She is not Empress. Generally she is called Kiritsubo no Koui (2nd class concubine at Kiritsubo). So I propose change of article name and its move.--Stella maris (talk) 13:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Wikipedia does not use the romanization "koui"; it would be "kōi." For reference, the article in the Japanese Wikipedia is at 桐壺更衣. Fg2 (talk) 20:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is. I changed Requested move to Kiritsubo no Kōi. --Stella maris (talk) 14:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[ADDITION]: In Japanese, /oo/, /ō/, and /ou/ are clearly distinguished. /おお/, /おー/, /おう/ are correspondent scripts in Japanese. And Ja-Wikipedia uses these distinctions. Look at 桐壺更衣, you can see that (きりつぼのこうい) is written. Your point is just local rule of en-wikipedia, not rule in ja-wikipedia (However, this is problem in En-Wikipedia, so I agree with your comment.) --Stella maris (talk) 15:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a problem with En-Wikipedia, but a shortcoming of the most common romanization system in English (which is also used by En-Wikipedia). For more info, please see WP:MOS-JA. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 03:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The most recent full translation (by Royall Tyler, 2003) uses Kiritsubo Consort. This is preferable to using a Japanese rank untranslated; we are intended for English speakers, and they will probably search for that phrase. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 7 July 2024

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) RodRabelo7 (talk) 16:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kiritsubo Consort → Consort Kiritsubo – I think if we are to go with the Anglicized form of the name, then "Consort Kiritsubo" would be the more naturally sound option. There is also precedent per WP:CONSISTENT: Lady Fujitsubo (instead of Fujitsubo Lady), Consort Kang (instead of Kang Consort), etc. Keivan.f^Talk 20:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 22:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose; the reversed form does not scan for me, and I could not find any use of "Consort Kiritsubo" on Google or Google Books (0 hits). Dekimasuよ! 14:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per above. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:05, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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