Talk:Empire of Japan–Russian Empire relations

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this page doesn't contain 1701 to 1855

I don't know why this article limit the era between 1855 to 1922. I would like to mention that there were some history before. There was even Japanese language school founded by Peter and Catherine the Great in St. Petersburg and Irkutsk in 18th century. There were even some communications via Ainu people. Sorry I don't participate in writing this article. I can just put information here.

1701: Dembei; Vladimir Atlasov; Japanese language education in Russia
before the first attack: Móric Beňovský - he lies all around though.... his lie also shocked Tokugawa somehow.; Daikokuya Kōdayū; Kirill Laxman; Adam Laxman
after 1804: Nikolai Rezanov; Vasily Golovnin; Takadaya Kahei
1853: Yevfimy Putyatin; Treaty of Shimoda

--Orcano (talk) 22:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't read all links, so just a quick comment: the page concerns the relations between (the official representants of) two states, not the contacts between Russians and Japanese (ethnicity) through history and the subsequent cultural exchanges. Sijo Ripa (talk) 09:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They are all involved in the relationships between the two states. Adam Laxman is official delegate for Catherine the Great, the first official contact by Russian Empire. Introducing Dembei to Peter by Vladimir Atlasov was when Russian monarchy started to think having relationship with Japan. Nikolai Rezanov was a big problem with both Russia and Japan as his men attacked Matsumae's base in Sakhalin and Iturup island without any permission by Russian official. Vasily Golovnin's abduction incident drew Russia and Japan almost re-opening fire in Hokkaido and civilian Takadaya Kahei, who was kidnapped in retaliation for being told that Golovnin was executed (which was not true), miraculously solved the problem in between Japan and Russia in antagonizing condition. They are all main players on this topic.--Orcano (talk) 20:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]