Talk:Emilia di Girolamo

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Hiya, I just edited this page and wondered why there's all these warnings about deleting the page. Seems to me its all properly referenced and true. This writer is awesome and has a ton of fans on the forums for her work on Eastenders & Law and Order UK (me being one of them). She's written like nine episodes of Eastenders and 5 law and orders. Think that makes her pretty noteable don't you? I checked it all through and its all looking correctly referenced. Please tell me if there's any bits which aren't so I can make sure they get ref'd properly and so you can remove the warning. Cheers.

There are sources included but on the most part they are not very good. IMDB is not considered a WP:reliable source for the same reasons at Wikipedia itself is not. The first Guardian link does not mention her and merely reported the viewing figures for Eastenders and Coronation street. The second Guardian link is to a short list of articles written by her - nothing in itself to establish notability. The Amazon links show that she has published one book and what looks like a doctoral thesis. The Radio times link just brings up an error. The article on notability linked to above gives guidance on what needs to be shown. A quick look on google really has not turned up anything significant coverage of her - just mentions in lists and unreliable sources. One link makes claims of her being award winning but without any indication of what award and when. Nothing on her own website shows any awards either. noq (talk) 13:02, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wow that's a bit harsh! I always thought IMDB was an accurate guide to those in the TV film industry's credits and hers make her pretty noteable don;t they?

The first Guardian link is actually referring to figures for her first episode of Law and Order UK and says -

"ITV1's Law & Order: UK pushed past its BBC1 rival Hustle in the battle for the 9pm ratings crown with an audience of 5.7 million and a 22% share, up 100,000 and one share point on last week." Check it - thats taken from the link.

The Radio Times page has gone but was up there because I saw it. That quote is about her first L and O episode.

The Amazon link goes to her novel and thesis, yes - but writing a novel that got great reviews again makes her noteable surely?

And are you sure you goggled her name right? I got pages of results when I googled her!

I can't see anything about her winning awards in the article - maybe you can say which link you mean - though I know she has won awards and prizes for her plays and poetry.

I think saying that a core writer on two prime time, major UK shows isn't noteable is a bit harsh. Fans of her work like myself (and there are many - check the Eastenders forums if you don't believe me, certainly don't agree!

Maybe you should just delete the page so us fans can start again but be great to know what counts as noteable in your book. Many tv writers with comparable credits are up on here without any warnings attached! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BamberBuns (talk • contribs) 13:49, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For notability guidelines see WP:ARTIST

For guidelines on reliable sources see WP:Reliable Sources

The great reviews seem to be back cover blurb - can you find the actual sources not something quoting them? Google at first sight seems to have 33,000 matches but in actual fact only shows 122. I searched on the uk google site with quotes round the name cut and pasted from this page, 100 hits per page. The award winning is mentioned in an advert for a writing course in one of the google returns. If other articles exist in a similar state that would not surprise me but it is not relevant. I would tag them similarly. Wikipedia requires articles to establish notability - that means things written about them - not just by them.. And it is not necessary to delete this article before it can be improved - read he guidelines on what Wikipedia is looking for and have go. noq (talk) 17:39, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]