Talk:Elsie Joy Davison

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The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 18:35, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

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• ... that Elsie Joy Davison was Britian's first female director of an aircraft company and the country's first woman pilot to die in World War II? Source: [1] [2]
  • ALT1:... that 1910-born Elsie Joy Davison became a licensed pilot at age 20? Source: [3]

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/May Hollinworth

Created by SoWhy (talk). Self-nominated at 14:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC).

• article is new enough, long enough, and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. I prefer ALT0 as the most interesting and engaging to a broader audience. No photo provided on the nomination.SoWhy, let me know when QPQ is complete, and this should be good to go. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:59, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: Thanks for the quick review, I didn't expect it this fast. QPQ added. Regards SoWhy 18:46, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

no problem. Looks good now. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:42, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Being an experienced pilot, Davison was quickly sent on a conversion course on how to fly fighter jets

"Being an experienced pilot, Davison was quickly sent on a conversion course on how to fly fighter jets" is, in my view, impossible. The first British jet fighter did not fly until 1941 (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Gloster_Aircraft_Company#1941_%E2%80%93_Arrival_of_the_Turbojet).

I'm reluctant to change it myself as it's got a citation and I don't have access to the book being cited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Southof40 (talk • contribs) 00:47, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

Was in the process of adding the dubious tag to the article for this reason at the same time you were making this comment. Dpmuk (talk) 00:51, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

I agree with the above comments there were no Jet aircraft flying in the UK until the experimental Gloster E28/39 flew in 1941. It would therefore be impossible for Davison to complete a conversion course for an aircraft that did not exist in the UK (or anywhere else as there were no fighter jets anywhere at that time as the only jet aircraft at that time was an experimental type in Germany) Aidan Hegarty — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.117.1.11 (talk) 01:04, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

First aircraft company female director?

I'm questioning the statement that Davison was "the country's first female director of an aircraft company in 1936". The supporting refs don't support the statement (the first is a book whose relevant content I can't get to from the link, the second I've examined thoroughly to no avail, and the third is effectively dead). I'm aware that there are sources out there that repeat the statement, but with no apparent justification.

Here are two candidates for the title: Mrs Victor Bruce - founded Air Dispatch 9 July 1934 and Constance Leathart - co-founded Cramlington Aircraft Ltd October 1929

I'm assuming that founding a company is equal to or better than being a director. Unless anyone objects, I'll amend the Davison and Leathart articles accordingly. Lestocq (talk) 20:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

Done, and removed citation of the Eastham Archivist article, which claimed to be sourced entirely from this Wikipedia article anyway. I haven't changed the Leathart article as it's my own brief research and I can cite no third party source. Lestocq (talk) 10:44, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Footnote I've just discovered Hilda Hewlett who co-established a flying school and an aircraft manufacturing company in 1910-12.Lestocq (talk) 01:28, 14 March 2023 (UTC)