Talk:Elizabeth Edwards/Archive 1

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2006 Update

I changed the first words of the article from "Mary Elizabeth Anania Edwards" to "Elizabeth Edwards," for a few lines down the report is made she was born "Mary Elizabeth Anania"; she has been known as "Elizabeth" almost all her life and the reference to "Mary" is confusing (I myself have paid close attention to the Edwards campaign and "Mary" was new to me.) I definitely agree with Moncrief (below) that the entry should go under the name Elizabeth Edwards, not Elizabeth Anania Edwards. Unlike Hillary Rodham Clinton, Elizabeth Edwards no longer uses her maiden name in any way, and in fact she has stated that she "changed" her name to Elizabeth Edwards after the death of their son Wade. After the death of Wade, the oldest Edwards child, Elizabeth Edwards retired from her legal career; she has referred to herself as a "recovering attorney." She has not performed work as an attorney since 1996 and does in fact refer to herself as a former attorney. I made that change. --ChicagoPete 12:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

2005 Update

I've changed the picture of Elizabeth Edwards, as the old one was not fit for any sort of encyclopaedic entry, or for human eyes :P! --Harro5 09:40, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

2004 Update

I really think this entry for presumptive Dem VP nominee John Edwards' wife should go under Elizabeth Edwards. How many people are going to do a search for her using her middle (maiden?) name as well? Not many. I've done a redirect from Elizabeth Edwards for now, but really think it should be changed to the primary title. Moncrief 17:27, Jul 9, 2004 (UTC)

1. Why are no sources referenced in this article, in particular for the assertion that "It is widely speculated that Elizabeth may still become America's First Lady"?

2. With regard to "Her husband led other potential candidates for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States in a June 2006 poll, held in Iowa" here's a reference for the Iowa Poll conducted in June 2006 by Selzer & Co. for the Des Moines Register:

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060611/NEWS09/606110338/1001/archive

There one learns that of "399 Iowa registered voters who are likely Democratic caucus participants" 30% chose (John) Edwards and 26% chose (Hillary) Clinton in a poll with a margin of error of 4.9 percentage points. Whatever significance this poll may have, perhaps reference to it more appropriately belongs under the entry for Ms. Edwards' husband John.

Elizabeth Edwards' blogosphere participation

Just wondering what anybody thinks about whether her involvement in the blogosphere merits mention. Add to that the receent Marcotte controversy. Not primarily intending to self-promote, but this is outlined here. --WWB 06:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Photo

I noticed the image lacks a fair-use rationale. Perhaps we can use this image from Flickr instead? It's licensed under the CC-Attribution-ShareAlike 2.0 license. We can crop the image to show only her face. --Blueag9 (Talk | contribs) 07:51, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Cancer

The article states that she was diagnosed with cancer on November 3, 2004, but to my recollection, that was the day she went public with the news. I think they knew about this well in advance. Does anyone know where a source can be found to confirm this?

Tangerine incident

Someone should write up her giving up tangerines to lower her carbon footprint (but not her huge mansion or private jet).--Rotten 05:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

"Resilience" and John Edwards' Infidelity

Elizabeth wrote a book about facing cancer, Wade's death and her husband's affair. Why is there no mention of this in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.189.80.181 (talk) 20:07, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

She's been on NPR a lot lately talking about the infidelity. I don't know why that isn't mentioned here. 24.106.212.86 (talk) 16:05, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

This is Wikipedia: If you see something wrong or missing, fix it! 96.60.228.113 (talk) 16:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Anania

Where did the name Anania originate? It sounds Mediterranean. Stonemason89 (talk) 00:08, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Italian. Tvoz/talk 06:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Facebook quote

I am removing (for the second time) the Facebook quote. While appropriate for inclusion in a full-length biography, or a remembrance, is unencyclopedic. ^Bongo_matic 01:25, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't agree - and I don't think this should be unilaterally decided on by you, with all respect. Tvoz/talk 03:18, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to see consensus on this; it has been widely reported at the moment. Of course that may well be WP:RECENTISM. As for removing it a second time, that was my fault; I was reformatting it and when I got an e/c, I thought the diff was only a little formatting. I missed the fact that the quote had been entirely removed. That was accidental.  Frank  |  talk  04:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I haven't seen it reported in any news sources—only in blogs. Can anyone point to a news-style article where this is reproduced? ^Bongo_matic 04:18, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

CNN (yes, the word "blog" is in the URL but it has news contributors and is a news piece, not a blog posting) and WRAL are already referenced in this article. It's also reported here (partially) and elsewhere. Why its inclusion would be limited if it also appears in blogs is not clear to me.  Frank  |  talk  04:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes Bongo, for one, it's quoted in its entirety in the Raleigh News-Observer, and partially in just about every article written today about her, including the New York Times obituary and again, Forbes, and a lot of other places - that some are blogs is not relevant as long as they are blogs with editorial oversight as per policy. I think we might want to revisit the recentism question sometime down the road, but for now I think it is an important piece of her biography and should be included. Tvoz/talk 07:11, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Quoted here: http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Lifestyle/Elizabeth-Edwards.aspx?cp-documentid=26662056&imageindex=1%3E=36010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.94.229.226 (talk) 16:48, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Is it proper to refer to this as a breast cancer death?

The article says she died of "metastatic breast cancer". Since she died shortly after it spread to her liver, wouldn't that make it a liver cancer death? Seems the logical idea, if you don't factor in how trendy breast cancer awareness has become, and how pink ribbons helped her book career . I, for one, think that shouldn't be a factor. And maybe liver cancer can enjoy more awareness, as an aside. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind, I answered my own question. Metastatic cancer is indeed a technically different thing than "regular" cancer. She died of cancerous breast cells, but inside her liver. There should be a "General Metastasis Awareness Month" in supermarkets and PSAs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by InedibleHulk (talk • contribs) 03:04, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

"Edwards lived the first 50 years of her life in relative obscurity as a lawyer and homemaker."

This statement is worded awkwardly since it seems to imply she has been a lawyer and homemaker since she was 11 years old which is not true. Could the person who wrote this word it better? Azn Clayjar (talk) 15:47, 8 December 2010 (UTC)  Done

She also spent the first 18 years of her life as a military kid, which is a very different kind of life (in some ways). It was also obscurity though (no one knows much about the lifestyle of military kids).

Telemachus.forward (talk) 04:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Correction

Ref #3 should be "L"ived, not "ived". 75.204.184.126 (talk) 18:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Fixed; thanks for the note.  Frank  |  talk  01:42, 9 December 2010 (UTC)