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The article says "Prueitt went into premature labor, and their daughter was diagnosed with cerebral palsy." Chad & Liz's daughter is still a minor. As a young teen she'd be horrified that this information was so public (if she knew - I don't think she knows). If no one cares, I'd suggest deleting it. There are SO many more interesting things to say about Liz than her daughter's medical condition. I checked with Liz (my sister) and she strongly agrees. SCPL (talk) 17:32, 17 January 2025 (UTC)Sara Prueitt[reply]
Is it your bot that keeps deleting the entry I've put in about Prueitt's cake recipe being featured in Oprah's O Magazine? The cake is described in O Magazine and others as being "lemon cake filled with layers of caramel, lemon cream, and lemon-grapefruit curd" topped with hand-formed sugar flowers. Is that what's glitching this entry? Could you explain so I can change whatever is objectionable? SCPL (talk) 01:48, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am not a robot, I am a volunteer on this website. If you read these sentences from the article I linked (Conflict of interest (COI) editing involves contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial and other relationships. COI editing is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia.), you would have noticed that you need to use the {{edit COI}} template to make this request. Henceforth, it is not a glitch, and it can be reinstated by using the template linked in the reply. Thank you. DACartman (talk) 01:52, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your answer! I skimmed the COI page (as I'm sure you can tell, I don't edit Wikipedia often, and when I do it's usually on ecology/CERCLA topics). Honestly, if I don't make the changes to Liz's page then the only other person who'd make the change is my sister's assistant, or the corporation that now owns the Tartine name and my sister's (and her ex's - Chad Robertson's) name and likeness. The corporation won't care about my niece's feelings (they don't care about my sister's feelings).
I knew there was a person behind the name DACartman, but I thought some automated system had flagged my edits to bring them to your attention. In the future you can leave a note asking for a stronger citation instead of just deleting without explanation. Thank you. SCPL (talk) 16:43, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, @Sara Prueitt. I completely get why you'd like to have as little information as possible here. Medical conditions are rather sensitive, and I think it's best to err on the side of privacy. In this individual case, I think the fact that your niece has been diagnosed with cerebral palsy will likely need to be included, since the sources indicate that it both impacted her mother's career and caused her to found a non-profit. Those are pretty big details to leave out of a biography, and a lot of the sources in the article make reference to them. However, as a compromise, I've removed her gender and exact year of birth for now. (Though I can add them back in later if her mother is okay with that). I can't stop anybody from adding those details back later, but this seemed to be a reasonable solution for now. I've also removed the fact that she was born prematurely - the source only made passing reference to that fact, and I don't think leaving it out hinders our reader's understanding of Prueitt's life.
I'm also going to echo the advice to use the edit COI template going forward, though it's not required in this particular instance. I do reccomend it, however, because it's really hard to edit neutrally about people or organizations you know. However, I've taken a look at your reverted edits, and your tone has been fine. The main issues are with sourcing. I can add the books she's published, and summarize the reviews they got. The Oprah fact is interesting. Do you have any sources discussing it? I might be able to add a mention of it in a "Publications" section. Similarly, the blog is interesting, but I'm going to have a hard time talking about it without sources. I might add it as an external link for now, because it sort of seems to be her official website in a way and those are generally fine to add to external link sections. But, if you can't tell by now, the thing Wikipedia cares the most about is sources. These can be things such as newspaper articles about her or reviews of her books in magazines. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 09:24, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your answer! I shared your response with Liz and she really appreciated the thoughtfulness and sensitivity that you showed. I think less is better when it comes to my niece's medical condition - so what's up there now is fine.
As a scientist, I'm all over a good citation. No really. It's my jam. Some things in Liz's Wikipedia page are incorrect, or at least misleading, but because I didn't have citations I didn't attempt to correct them. For example, it says she grew up in Brooklyn. She actually spent half of her childhood in Brooklyn. Our family moved to Garrison, NY, when she was in fifth (or sixth?) grade - but aside from waving around old school photos, there's no way to cite that. So I left it.
I was editing Liz's page on the fly and grabbing citations from Google Scholar, and apparently Google Scholar's strength is not cookbooks (who knew?). I'm going to go ahead and add her third cookbook back - but I'll dig out a better citation. I don't know if I've got the time and patience to keep adding that Oprah Magazine reference back (I cited the magazine issue that featured her cake, and Delish, who gave the recipe for Liz's cake - but as I said earlier, I typed on the fly and didn't save those citations). I'd also have to find the time and patience to figure out the COI template. I'm short on both about now.
Thanks again GreenLipstickLesbian! I appreciate your intervention. I do love Wikipedia - I make regular donations - but it can be a thorny place. Encounters with folks like you make it better. SCPL (talk) 17:09, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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