Talk:Electricity theft in Pakistan

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Review for WP:COATRACK

Presently the page is pending for review, therefore, it is better to wait for the result from the the Wikipedia Asian Month jury for the English Wikipedia. They will determine whether an article qualifies for inclusion or not, under the criteria set-in for the project, for detail please see this[1]. WP:COATRACK advice may be reviewed/considered later. Nannadeem (talk) 10:31, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Nannadeem The Statement at Asian month means that they will review your article "AS to whether it CAN BECOME A PART OF ASIA MONTH OR NOT". It is your job to make sure that the article is wikipedia material. They will not review your article as an Article for Creation draft. If you want I can ping other editors to join this discussion and they will agree with this. Or you can accept my advice and try to avoid coatracking. Regards FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 10:59, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@FreeatlastChitchat Ok invite others. If consensus on your point is established I will accept your advice and redraft per Coatracking with its move or change of topic. That is why I am reverting your revert. Ok Nannadeem (talk) 14:51, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

PINGING User:HyperGaruda, Jeppiz, Tivanir2, DeCausa, Human10.0, Amatulić, Toddy1, user:MezzoMezzo— Preceding unsigned comment added by FreeatlastChitchat (talk • contribs) 19:01, 19 December 2015

@FreeatlastChitchat: don't forget to sign the sections where you ping people, or else the pings won't reach the addressees (see mw:Manual:Echo#Technical details; re-pinging for you: Jeppiz, Tivanir2, DeCausa, Human10.0, Amatulic, Toddy1, MezzoMezzo). About the article: it has already been included in Asia Month as can be seen here and here. FC is correct that inclusion in the Asian Month project does not automatically mean that an article complies with Wikipedia standards. FC has also correctly seen that much of the article content is not directly related to the "kunda system in Karachi". Such an article with unrelated content is called a coat-rack article. In the current article, we don't get any information about the kunda system in Karachi until the section Kunda System in Karachi#Kunda as a Temporary solutions. Please delete the unrelated background or move it to a more related article, and above all WP:Stay on topic. - HyperGaruda (talk) 20:16, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No idea why I'm pinged here. Please don't ping people without explaining the ping. Jeppiz (talk) 20:38, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@FreeatlastChitchat:, if you have some objections to this article, please could you say what they are. If you have more than one objection, the use of bullet points to summarise them would help.----

If somebody thinks that WP:COATRACK is relevant to this article, please could they explain why they think this.-- Toddy1 (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ Toddy1 We can clearly see that almost half of the article is coatrack, i only deleted that. If you will be kind enough to look at my version this will be clear I hope. Regards FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 03:35, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think that the parts you deleted are a coat-rack. It seems to me that they explain how the Kunda system in Karachi fits in.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:39, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@ Toddy1 Most of what I removed was what I presumed to be coatracked, some was unsourced. For example the sections, Urbanization without town planning, Smart metering proposal for commercial/Industrial Organizations and others are cearly coatrack. Smart metering is only talking about non payment, not Kunda system of theft. Same is true for the lengthy discussion of electrical theft. Regards FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 07:46, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Responding to the ping...alright, I'm going to make this comment after only having skimmed the article, so take my question for what it is and accept my apology if I simply miss the mark. But this article is titled after some sort of Kunda system, and most of the body simply discusses issues relating to electricity usage in Pakistan; much of it doesn't mention this supposed Kunda system at all. What specifically is here that shouldn't be in Electricity sector in Pakistan? MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MezzoMezzo"Briefly Kunda system means theft of electricity in Pakistan". Electricity sector in Pakistan mainly focus on generation. Whereas in Kunda system focus is distribution only. Here in this article you would see (theft) + (causes) + (involvements) + (kunda supply by distributor and gangs). I think in this parameter, you should review your observations. Thanks Nannadeem (talk) 15:51, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]