Talk:El-Tigani el-Mahi

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A fact from El-Tigani el-Mahi appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 June 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that El-Tigani el-Mahi pioneered studies on magic and zār and their relationship to mental health?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/June. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/El-Tigani el-Mahi.

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 15:19, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that El-Tigani el-Mahi was dubbed the "Father of African Psychiatry"? Source: The Mahi-Baasher Heritage, page 89
- ALT1: ... that El-Tigani el-Mahi pioneered studying magic and zār relationship to mental health? Source: Sickness and the spirits: a study of the Zaar spirit possession cult in the northern Sudan page 280
  Al-Tijani Al-Mahi.. Pioneer of psychiatry in Sudan.. Old stories about Al-Zar (in Arabic)
- ALT2: ... that El-Tigani el-Mahi had in his collection coins that date back to the Alexander the Great era? Source: Professor Tigani El Mahi: Short biography and photos
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chadd Cumberbatch
- Comment: I like the ALT1, magic seems to attract people to read an article

Created by FuzzyMagma (talk). Self-nominated at 09:02, 15 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/El-Tigani el-Mahi; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing:
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - Earwig shows 44.8% violation possible

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Biggest problem is possible copyvio. Second biggest problem is QPQ needed. Once that's fixed, we can look at ALT1, the most interesting hook here. 〜 Festucalex • talk 06:08, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Festucalex: I think the copyvio issues relates to the quote. QPQ is being done FuzzyMagma (talk) 00:05, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@FuzzyMagma: Waiting for you to do the QPQ. Meanwhile, I'll ping @BorgQueen for advice on the copyvio situation, because it's indeed the quote that's tripping earwig up. This is only my second ever review, I'm not entirely confident in ignoring the 44.8%. 〜 Festucalex • talk 05:16, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the article will need a bit of rewriting. @Nikkimaria: care to take a look? BorgQueen (talk) 15:13, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BorgQueen: maybe you did that already, but would it possible for to click on "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" and see if "a bit of rewriting" is still warranted. FuzzyMagma (talk) 15:44, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Looks OK now, after I've copyedited it myself. BorgQueen (talk) 16:30, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BorgQueen: So, just for the sake of my own elucidation, the next time I review a DYK and face this problem, I just copyedit the article myself? 〜 Festucalex • talk 17:18, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Festucalex: not to overstep, but if you can copy edit the text of an article, that is always good (at least that is what I do). But if it’s beyond repair you can just tag it and ask the promoter to fix it. As for this specific case, you can go through the edit history in the article and see what BorgQueen did, which basically reducing the size (while keeping the core message) of the quotation to address your concerns about copyvio 19:25, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 needed some slight tweaking as I feel like it was not worded just right. I have made the hook mirror the article text without changing the intent.
ALT1a: ... that El-Tigani el-Mahi pioneered studies on magic and zār and their relationship to mental health? Perhaps @Ravenpuff: can help tweak further while it is in Prep? Bruxton (talk) 15:17, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]